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Guitar sonic vintagising - ToneRite, etc

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  • brucegillbrucegill Frets: 643
    edited December 2015
    Looking forward to seeing what people think when they arrive. Very tempted. Got a new Collings thats lovely but a little tight. Did you guys order from the US direct? Shame the youtube videos are so hit and miss... and odd Tonerite don't have any demos as far as I could see. I can see it working though, so not really doubting it, just don't need to spend anymore money right now lol

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  • ToneControlToneControl Frets: 11438
    edited December 2015
    from Holland

    that big place
    "the fellowship of acoustics"
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  • ToneControlToneControl Frets: 11438
    it's now on a guitar

    the user manual suggests that a guitar can "fall asleep" if not retreated every so often
    I'm a bit skeptical about that
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  • ToneControl;901869" said:
    from Holland

    that big place"the fellowship of acoustics"
    Many thanks! Hope it works out

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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 69426
    the user manual suggests that a guitar can "fall asleep" if not retreated every so often
    I'm a bit skeptical about that
    I think that's also true - if a guitar is left in a case for a long time it can go back to sounding a bit dead at first when it's taken out.

    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski

    "Just because I don't care, doesn't mean I don't understand." - Homer Simpson

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  • Pmsl sorry I didn't get the memo
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  • Yeah fellowship of acoustics They got it out the door real fast should of been here a couple of days ago but their uk shipper has misrouted it twice hey ho christmad
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  • ToneControlToneControl Frets: 11438
    looking good so far

    the one I tried it on for 48 hours was no match for my favourite, and weaker in some ways than the other (larger) new one
    now it is close to the favourite, and makes the larger sister sound thin
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  • How's it going @ToneControl?

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  • ToneControlToneControl Frets: 11438
    brucegill said:
    How's it going @ToneControl?

    it does work, you'd easily notice the difference

    it has transformed the new cedar-top already
    it was a long way behind my favourite, now it's very close, and the difference now is probably down to the rosewood vs Mahogany sides and back

    I have tried it on a older guitar, and it made a difference

    I am now trying it on a new mahogany/spruce slope-shouldered dread, it has made a difference already, about 30% of the way through the treatment

    I read it works on resonator cones too.
    I plan to try it on semis and hollowbodies next after the acoustics


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  • Thanks for letting us know. I think I'll order one after Xmas.
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  • ToneControlToneControl Frets: 11438
    brucegill said:
    Thanks for letting us know. I think I'll order one after Xmas.
    be aware a lot of people are asking £300 or so for used ones even

    the place I bought mine had several new ones for £116, delivered
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  • I used one in the past.l was a bit wary about trying on a Martin so I tried it on my archtop with bad results.It seemed to bring trebles way above the rest of the strings.Really tinny sort of sound.However I've heard it has better results with new acoustics.Hopes this helps (good luck),you sound a braver man than me :))
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  • ToneControlToneControl Frets: 11438
    Just used it on a new spruce top - major improvement within hours

    I've used it on quite a few guitars, it does improve them (obviously only up to a point)
    I'm thinking of putting it on a resonator, they take years to burn in normally as well
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  • carloscarlos Frets: 3252
    Tens of thousands of hours of play time alter the molecular structure of the wood fibers, aging the instrument and creating a richer, sweeter, and louder tone.
    The ToneRite accelerates this same play-in process by using a set of sub-sonic frequencies to simulate long term play.  


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  • So......... 2022 now .. anybody using these?
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  • From a personal point of view I am one of those people who believes getting better at something comes from doing that thing more. You'll get better at your chosen activity by doing that activity and I'm sure playing your guitar more will simply do the same job. But in this age of excess surely the problem here is that we simply own too many guitars and this device is a first world answer to a third world problem? I am not saying I dont think it works,it probably does,but just playing would be as effective and more fun.
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  • bertiebertie Frets: 12145
    I read that they are really useful and have the biggest "impact"  where you might have a guitar/guitars that dont get played for "long ish"  periods and it helps keep the soundboard opened up
    just because you don't, doesn't mean you can't
     just because you do, doesn't mean you should.
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  • MellishMellish Frets: 945
    Hmm...ok, my Dove is subjected to music (radio mostly) when it's not being played  at home or gigged.

    Now, what will a ToneRite achieve that this won't? Not saying nothing but what?

    :) 
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  • droflufdrofluf Frets: 3144
    Mellish said:
    Hmm...ok, my Dove is subjected to music (radio mostly) when it's not being played  at home or gigged.

    Now, what will a ToneRite achieve that this won't? Not saying nothing but what?

    :) 
    Depends what station you're tuned to. Speech radio and you'll find your guitar start to talk to you but if it's music radio it will sing to you! :)


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  • MellishMellish Frets: 945
    @Drofluf ; gotcha! :+1:

    ;)
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  • droflufdrofluf Frets: 3144
    I used to be on a mandolin forum (before I realised I’d never play the mandolin as badly as I play guitar…) and folks got very heated on the topic. Tonerite is “manna for heaven” vs. “It’s snake oil”. Was fun to watch but made the Gibson is better than Fender (or vice-versa) wars look like a 3a.m. Drunken handbag fight. 
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  • sev112sev112 Frets: 2457
    Anyone in the south want to lend / rent me one for a few weeks please ?
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  • Another one to look out for, if inclined, is the Tone Traveler 
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  • GTCGTC Frets: 241
    From a sceptic who decided to try a ToneRite after hearing that Ramirez use them on their new classicals - it works, and it works very well indeed.

    They aren't particularly expensive - I got mine from Caswell Strings https://caswells-strings.co.uk/product/guitar-tonerite/  £136
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  • Is there a sweet spot after which it starts getting worse again, or does it just stop getting better at it's best? 

    Or just keep getting better.
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  • GTCGTC Frets: 241
    Is there a sweet spot after which it starts getting worse again, or does it just stop getting better at it's best? 

    Or just keep getting better.
    I've only ever used it with the recommended 72-hour treatment on new guitars to speed up the opening up process. Like any new guitar that has been played in naturally, I think the latter is more likely.

    I've never tried shorter "refresher" treatments as others have.
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  • ToneControlToneControl Frets: 11438
    So......... 2022 now .. anybody using these?
    I still use it on acoustics, some definitely need it, and change rapidly
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  • ToneControlToneControl Frets: 11438
    GTC said:
    Is there a sweet spot after which it starts getting worse again, or does it just stop getting better at it's best? 

    Or just keep getting better.
    I've only ever used it with the recommended 72-hour treatment on new guitars to speed up the opening up process. Like any new guitar that has been played in naturally, I think the latter is more likely.

    I've never tried shorter "refresher" treatments as others have.
    I have an Adirondack dread that needs refreshing before I can play fingerstyle on it
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  • Do these make bad playing sound good? Thought not. That's me out then.
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