EVH III?

John_P · August 2013

As I look around at potential new amps I saw the EVH (probably the 50W version) - I'm sure a few guys had them on MR. Any thoughts on them or seen one for sale?

Drew_TNBD · August 2013

Everything I've heard from them sounded really really amazing.

John_P · August 2013

The more clips I check out the more I think I want one - I'm not 100% sure the 50w can really function as 3 channels - I suspect I'll want more gain on ch2 and less on ch1 but I can use pedals to sort that - just trying to find someone selling one for a decent price.

bntylr · August 2013

Tried one in Andertons a few weeks ago (50w version) and was mighty impressed.

Wasn't 100 percent keen on the cleans, a little dull I thought, but the high gain sounds were brutal.

rockmonster · August 2013

Get the 100 and your amp GAS will be over! Mine is!

karltone · August 2013

I've got the 50 and the 100 watt version, both great amps!

John_P · August 2013

karltone said:

I've got the 50 and the 100 watt version, both great amps!

Ah - perfect - and you want to sell me the 50W? ;-)

Quick question - how do you find the balance of channels 1 and 2?

rockmonster · August 2013

I didn't like the 50 at all. It had more gain than the 100 which for me is OTT and the balance between channels one and two was a joke.

karltone · August 2013

The balance is workable for me live. If you have the gain set above halfway the volume difference is just right, you might get some hair on the clean depending on what guitar, pickups etc your using, but i quite like it that way. I am toying with getting rid of one of them, don't know which yet though.

John_P · August 2013

karltone said:

The balance is workable for me live. If you have the gain set above halfway the volume difference is just right, you might get some hair on the clean depending on what guitar, pickups etc your using, but i quite like it that way. I am toying with getting rid of one of them, don't know which yet though.

l :-) Well if you decide to sell the 50w I have cash waiting depending how much you want for it :-)

Kebabkid · August 2013

Just out of interest, are these amps the same-sounding as the Peavey 5150s?

John_P · August 2013

Kebabkid said:

Just out of interest, are these amps the same-sounding as the Peavey 5150s?

They are both capable of very high gain sounds but they have a slighty different flavour and the new ones have an extra channel.

John_P · August 2013

Another question for the guys who own one...

Before I end up buying a new 50W model in the next couple of days, I just saw a used 100W not far from me for a similar price (ish).

I didn't realise that only the 50w has midi switching - that could make integrating the bigger amp into my rig a bit messy, I don't want to have to add an rjm gizmo or similar and bump up the cost even more, can the 100W head be controlled by the G system switching?

Moltisanti · September 2013

i doubt it as the 100w footswitch is a 9 pin (?) jobby

John_P · September 2013

Moltisanti said:

i doubt it as the 100w footswitch is a 9 pin (?) jobby

Thanks - that's a shame - the exta cost and hassle means a 50W is the way to go... just a shame no one is selling one.

rockmonster · September 2013

100 watter is a 7 pin jobber

John_P · September 2013

rockmonster said:

100 watter is a 7 pin jobber

Thanks but it's still a pain as I'd have to get extra gear to integrate one in my system and more annoying that someone is selling one near me for a decent price lol

rockmonster · September 2013

Tried the 50 combo last Saturday - not impressed at all! I quite fancied the look of it but nowhere near as good a tone as the 100 IMHO!

John_P · September 2013

rockmonster said:

Tried the 50 combo last Saturday - not impressed at all!

Interesting - i'd expect a very similar tone to the head but cab size etc could be making a difference - what was wrong with it?

rockmonster · September 2013

Far too much gain not enough bottom end and nowhere near as warm as my 100. Gutted I was coz I fancied the same tone but in a smaller package for smaller gigs.

John_P · September 2013

Could be that a speaker swap would improve that but the smaller box probably didn't help.

Now that the combo's are out, I should investigate as they would be very useful for small gigs, with my rehearsal board in the loop it could be a nice setup..... depending on the sound of couse!

Edit - just realised they are a 2x12 so the cab size shouldn't be an issue, I wonder if they revoiced it slightly from the head?

fastboy · September 2013

I bought one of the 50's recently for a side project I have going which is mainly going to be 80's rock.

I tested it back to back with the 100 through the EVH 2x12 and was really impressed with both. I was only really interested in the 50 but Andertons had to get the 50 from the warehouse for me so said test the 100 whilst you wait which I duly obliged on.

They really do sound identical. Yes, the 50 has a hair more gain in the crunch channel but apart from that there was nothing it in.

I did find with the shared channels 1 and 2 that even with the gain maxed in channel 2 that channel 1 was still pretty clean (it did have a touch of hair to it but I was using a Charvel San Dimas with Duncan distortions in the bridge). The clean is a touch quieter than channel 2, however, I suspect in a live environment it wouldn't make much difference being a tad quieter as if you're using channel 2 as a high gain channel, the better cut through on the clean would mean the difference in volume wouldn't make any odds I suspect.

For "cleans" I tend to use a volume pedal as a roll off anyhow so suspect channel 1 won't get used really anyhow.

What is so impressive about the 50 is the tone in such a small and light head.

Kebabkid · September 2013

Welcome over R! @fastboy

fastboy · September 2013

Kebabkid said:

Welcome over R! @fastboy

Thanks Kostas. Glad to see we're still going in some format

John_P · September 2013

Thanks for the info Ryan - really confirms everything I had thought about the 50W... just debating whether I keep looking for a used 50 or bite the bullet and get a new one... I'm in no rush though - plenty of amps here already....

fastboy · September 2013

Go and give em a go John and then make your excuses not to buy on the day.

I really couldn't tell any difference in crunch and lead channels between the two in the same room, same cab and in the exact same spot more importantly absolutely back to back.

rockmonster · September 2013

Twas good to see you again Ryan- for me I still haven't heard a 50 that sounds as good as my 100 - I actually haven't heard a 100 as good as it either! I've had both a 50 and a 100 since I got my ivory 100 and 4x12 and I sold em both - neither sounded as good!

guitarfishbay · September 2013

I've not personally had the 50/100 sat side by side but have tried them. Personally I prefer the feature set on the 100 watter.

I've heard several A/B comparisons and they are close but the 100 does sound thicker and meaner in the low mids. Here is one clip that is still online - the first waveform is the 50 watter through the EVH412, second is the 100 watter through the EVH412, same mic position, then it goes to a Diezel cab. Realistically they're close enough that you could EQ them to be pretty similar, but on my headphones (ATH M50s) I can definitely hear an audible difference. There used to be an even better A/B comparison but it is no longer online.

https://soundcloud.com/judgementnate/evh-50-and-100-watt

rockmonster said:

Twas good to see you again Ryan- for me I still haven't heard a 50 that sounds as good as my 100 - I actually haven't heard a 100 as good as it either! I've had both a 50 and a 100 since I got my ivory 100 and 4x12 and I sold em both - neither sounded as good!

AFAIK there have been some revisions to the 100 but nobody knows anything for sure. I've read of a few rock guitarists/producers experiencing differences between models but Fender/EVH reckon none of the changes should have affected the tone.

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