I wish Marshall would make....

Nerine · October 2013

A line of amps that have factory mods.

Like a Hot Rod series.

For example take some of their vintage reissues like the 1987x

Add power scaling, cascaded gain stages, footswitchable master volumes, a range of cool colours and finishes etc. Depth mods etc etc.

Gnarly plexi's for everyone!

I know they did something similar with the YJM, but not everyone wants a Malmsteen sig amp.
I know I, for one, would be all over a hot rodded 1987.

fretmeister · October 2013

I'm surprised they haven't done a Non-YJM version of that plexi.

Stick it in a smaller box, RRP at £1200 and watch them fly out the door.

Nerine · October 2013

Indeed!

I'd love a red/purple 1987x with 2 master volumes that you can switch between, that has a bit more gain on tap as well from a cascaded preamp circuit, maybe even have some of it handwired, keep the pots mounted to the chassis etc. Retail it for £1200-1300 and blam!!
No reverb or boost circuits though. I'd never use them and I like having a choice of pedals to do that kind of thing.

Jalapeno · October 2013

A decent Solid State head ......

Cirrus · October 2013

I wish they would make a 500 watt MG series amp with built in shimmer reverb and 36 inputs, and ship it with a single greenback speaker in a 200lb 1x12 combo format.

Nerine · October 2013

Ok then....

Amps that sound good as they used to.

fretmeister · October 2013

Yup - they can leave the boost and reverb off it.

A properly defeatable FX loop would be the only extra I want.

This is probably why I have such gas for a Suhr Badger 30!

cosmiccarrot · October 2013

Jalapeno said:

A decent Solid State head ......

Have you tried one of the old mosfets marshall used to make in the late 80's/90's there pretty good and cheap now! I sold one on MR last year for a 130 quid. I think the model was 3210?

Jalapeno · October 2013

I have. Just wish they still did something better than the MGs

Drew_TNBD · October 2013

Get a Satch JVM.

Win the amp wars.

Jalapeno · October 2013

I'm fully valved up thanks. Would like to see SS amps developing (as opposed to modelling amps)

cosmiccarrot · October 2013

Nerine said:

I know they did something similar with the YJM, but not everyone wants a Malmsteen sig amp.

Personally it wouldn't bother me having that sig amp as it pretty much looks like a regular marshall but some of the other sig amps with slash logos and the like would put me off.

I used to have a metroamp build that was a switchable 1959/2204 cross that also had a dual tap PT that lowered it to 400v along with an SDM effects loop.... it's now back to stock (more or less) 1959 with no loop, no mv just 400v PT. I just found that after a bit of faffing around you find or dial in the sound you like and stick with it, so a lot of stuff on an amp ends up being a distraction (bit like too many footpedals LOL).

IanSavage · October 2013

...bass amps that were anywhere near as good as the old DBSeseses, that didn't cost a fortune and weigh a ton.

fretmeister · October 2013

IanSavage said:

...bass amps that were anywhere near as good as the old DBSeseses, that didn't cost a fortune and weigh a ton.

Marshall own Eden Amps now, but they don't seem to be doing anything with them to compete properly.

I just hope that with Fender closing down Genz Benz and SWR that they intend to rebadge the kit under the Fender name. The Genz in particular are just too damn good.

Drew_TNBD · October 2013

I'd like a new JMP-1 rack unit!

daveyh · October 2013

That's what the Jubilee/Customs were, factory hot rodded JCM800s.

benvall · October 2013

I agree with Nerine. I'd love a 4 hole marshall plexi with power scaling. I have started building a metroamp JTM45. well i say started, I've soldered some wires onto a turrett board. My plan was to add the Lar/Mar PPI-MV and fx loop and stick a tubescreamer in front then hit it with my les paul.

cosmiccarrot · October 2013

benvall said:

I have started building a metroamp JTM45. well i say started, I've soldered some wires onto a turrett board. My plan was to add the Lar/Mar PPI-MV and fx loop and stick a tubescreamer in front then hit it with my les paul.

If your interested I've still got the ppmv and SDM's zero loss loop from my metroamp, been meaning to sell the parts.

ThePrettyDamned · October 2013

Jalapeno;47645" said:
I have. Just wish they still did something better than the MGs

Mg's don't sound quite so nasty when going through a proper cab. I tried one through a blackstar 4x12, and it sounded... Not too bad. Usable, I suppose.

But I agree - I'd love for them to do a proper solid state amp, not just as a budget amp. They've done it before, I'd like a higher gain one with blendable channels to add some cleaner tone to keep things tight.

I'm actually a bit fed up of reissue amps. Something more original, but good (the vintage modern had good ideas, but executed them terribly - quality tone can be had, but it takes ages to dial in).

But I'd agree, solid state would rule the roost for me.

Jalapeno · October 2013

My issue with MG is the build / tone quality. I have one as a spare (I'd prefer a MosFet or a ValveState), they sound perfectly adequate (I wouldn't say they're to die for, but giggable, and stupid loud).

Dave_Mc · October 2013

Good call, Nerine.

ICBM · October 2013

An amp with two channels, channel one is an exact JMP 1987/1959 circuit, channel two is an exact JMP 2203/4 circuit - it could have a few options like "channel link" for the first channel, and gain boost (moderate) or mid-shift (to give a more 'modern' sound) for the second channel. Selectable solid-state or valve rectifier. Decent valve-driven reverb, flexible FX loop, and tremolo - all footswitchable or channel-assignable. Overall master volume. Built-in 'Variac' switch. Choice of EL34 or KT66 power valves. Excellent build quality - it can be PCB but it must have decent quality pots and jacks, and preferably chassis-mounted power and rectifier valve sockets. Available as a head or a combo.

Moon on a stick? No... because this amp exists - OK, it doesn't sound *exactly* like those classic Marshalls, but if you set it up right it's surprisingly close to it, closer than you would believe if you've never heard one A/B'd with the actual Marshalls through the same speakers.

The only problem is that Marshall didn't make it.

Mesa did.

ThePrettyDamned · October 2013

ICBM;48016" said:
An amp with two channels, channel one is an exact JMP 1987/1959 circuit, channel two is an exact JMP 2203/4 circuit - it could have a few options like "channel link" for the first channel, and gain boost (moderate) or mid-shift (to give a more 'modern' sound) for the second channel. Selectable solid-state or valve rectifier. Decent valve-driven reverb, flexible FX loop, and tremolo - all footswitchable or channel-assignable. Overall master volume. Built-in 'Variac' switch. Choice of EL34 or KT66 power valves. Excellent build quality - it can be PCB but it must have decent quality pots and jacks, and preferably chassis-mounted power and rectifier valve sockets. Available as a head or a combo.

Moon on a stick? No... because this amp exists - OK, it doesn't sound *exactly* like those classic Marshalls, but if you set it up right it's surprisingly close to it, closer than you would believe if you've never heard one A/B'd with the actual Marshalls through the same speakers.

The only problem is that Marshall didn't make it.

Mesa did.

Might this be your favourite amp of all time?

If so, I have seen them sell before for less than a grand. Significantly less, in fact. So much so, I reckon if I can't find a suitable solid state head, I'll get one in the next year or two...

Catthan · October 2013

ICBM said:

An amp with two channels, channel one is an exact JMP 1987/1959 circuit, channel two is an exact JMP 2203/4 circuit - it could have a few options like "channel link" for the first channel, and gain boost (moderate) or mid-shift (to give a more 'modern' sound) for the second channel. Selectable solid-state or valve rectifier. Decent valve-driven reverb, flexible FX loop, and tremolo - all footswitchable or channel-assignable. Overall master volume. Built-in 'Variac' switch. Choice of EL34 or KT66 power valves. Excellent build quality - it can be PCB but it must have decent quality pots and jacks, and preferably chassis-mounted power and rectifier valve sockets. Available as a head or a combo.

Moon on a stick? No... because this amp exists - OK, it doesn't sound *exactly* like those classic Marshalls, but if you set it up right it's surprisingly close to it, closer than you would believe if you've never heard one A/B'd with the actual Marshalls through the same speakers.

The only problem is that Marshall didn't make it.

Mesa did.

and which Mesa would that be if you don't mind my ignorance? I d be very interested in it if what you say is true. Let me know so I can look it up brgrds,

ICBM · October 2013

ThePrettyDamned said:

Might this be your favourite amp of all time?

If so, I have seen them sell before for less than a grand. Significantly less, in fact. So much so, I reckon if I can't find a suitable solid state head, I'll get one in the next year or two...

Of course!

But if Marshall had made it, I'd have been equally happy. I was always a Marshall player originally, and although I did get a bit diverted by Fender and then Mesa/Boogie in the 90s, the 'sound in my head' has really always been an old-school Marshall of some sort. The Trem-o-verb is actually *very* Marshally, more so than the straight Dual Rectifier.

I've seen them sell for as little as £600, for the combo version. The offputting weight is the reason, especially if the seller is in the back of beyond and/or won't ship it. The head version is always far more expensive, even though it comes without two free V30s...

Catthan · October 2013

@ICBM I thought you meant the stiletto as iirc it's supposed to be inspired by Marshalls.

octatonic · October 2013

A £100 amp that 100% nails the Plexi, JCM800 and Bogner Uberschall tones, weighs under 3kg and gives me a blowjob after making me a sandwich.

No, wait, before making me a sandwich.

cosmiccarrot · October 2013

ICBM said:

OK, it doesn't sound *exactly* like those classic Marshalls,

But isn't that a compromise? there are a lot of pedals and amps that claim to 'sound like' and some so close that a lot of people can't tell but I'd rather have one classic marshall sound than two or three close but no cigar tones, although great the mesa is

To me the secret with the classic marshall sound is mainly in the power section, although I think the 2204 and 2203 were marshall's finest all rounder, the old superleads were a tone monster but are unforgiving to the slightest player mistakes unlike a lot of the latter high gain amps that followed.

Drew_TNBD · October 2013

octatonic said:

A £100 amp that 100% nails the Plexi, JCM800 and Bogner Uberschall tones, weighs under 3kg and gives me a blowjob after making me a sandwich.

No, wait, before making me a sandwich.

I'd have gone "during"

p90fool · October 2013

I wish Marshall would make...
...the JTM45 Reissue cheaper. It already does everything I need,the last thing I want is all that outboard stuff built into the amp so I can't change it around.

If you want a high gain valve preamp, plug one in. If you want FX, plug it in, if you want an attenuator, plug one in.

I never heard a modded 4-hole Marshall that sounded better than a stock 4-hole Marshall.

ICBM · October 2013

Catthan said:

@ICBM I thought you meant the stiletto as iirc it's supposed to be inspired by Marshalls.

Possibly, but so is Rhythm 2 on the Mark series and the 'Brit' mode on the Road King...

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I tried one once - I though it sounded brash and a bit thin, didn't like it at all really.

p90fool said:

I wish Marshall would make...
...the JTM45 Reissue cheaper. It already does everything I need,the last thing I want is all that outboard stuff built into the amp so I can't change it around.

They couldn't without reducing the quality. It's one of the best-made amps they do, don't spoil it! It's already cheaper than the boutique 'clones'.

p90fool said:

If you want a high gain valve preamp, plug one in. If you want FX, plug it in, if you want an attenuator, plug one in.

I never heard a modded 4-hole Marshall that sounded better than a stock 4-hole Marshall.

Agreed. I said that in the 'modded Marshall' thread too

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