Transition from A major to C minor?

viz · November 2014

Hello chaps. A challenge for you: I have to do a solo which bridges 2 songs - the first ends on a triumphant A major chord, then there's a minute's gap, then the next song is in C bluesy major/minor. I need to fill that gap with unaccompanied noodling that somehow navigates that modulation, possibly via a few joining chords. Any ideas?

randomhandclaps · November 2014

How long is the gap?

viz · November 2014

1 minute

bigjon · November 2014

A minor pentatonic = C major pentatonic, then C minor pentatonic, maybe just as the track comes in under a sustained Eb note...

randomhandclaps · November 2014

Ahh, totally missed that on my phone. Well it's not so tight that being completely strict matters or you could wander off and return. In a tighter spot I would have started with an outline A major, D major, D Dom, G minor, C minor.

Jalapeno · November 2014

All you need is the A Major to A Minor change, then drift into Cm when you feel like it. You could also invent a cool chromatic riff from A to C as C is the min3rd of Am - so it all would fit.

Loads of options ...

Cirrus · November 2014

Use whatever mode Radiohead use in the middle section of Paranoid android - turn amaj and cmin into fuck buddies.

viz · November 2014

Very cool; that RHC one I'd already had a go at and it falls nicely to my fingers, thanks, then I've just have been giving it another go and done the à la BJ/Jalapeno one.

Yes so at the moment I'm starting on a high C# (fret 21 on the top E string) and runining up and down the 4 notes, fret 21, 17 on E string, and 20, 17 on the B string a few times, then switching to A minor by doing frets 20, 17 on the B string and 19,17 on the G string), then using those 4 notes as part of the C major pentatonic running up to top C and down to bottom C (fret 20 on the bottom E string). Then coming down an octave to first finger on fret 8 of the bottom E string and hey presto I'm in C minor penta. Seems to work quite nicely

viz · November 2014

Lol ok thanks Cirrus, will check it

Clarky · December 2014

the chord of A = A, C#, E

the chord of Cm = C, Eb, G

if I can assume that the chord of A is in a rock context so it can be essentially A7 [even though that's not what you actually play].

noodle in A maj pentatonic and A mixolydian [blues rock / classic rock style]

A mixo chord VII = G

Cm chord V = G

progression: A to G [or G/B] then to Cm

keys:

over the A: A maj pentatonic and A mixolydian: key centre is D maj

over the G: G lydian still has the D maj key centre.. you can also interleave G lydian and G mixolydian licks [key centre C maj and you can also use C maj and Cm pentatonics to start heading for the blues..

eventually switch complete to G mixo..

over the C: C dorian and Cm pentatonic

performance.. A to G to A to G repeatedly.. eventually go for the G and stay there to pave the way for the transition to Cm…

however…. if the A chord is from A diatonic major we have a whole different prob to solve..

it also depends upon whole much time you have..

what style you want the transition to be in

and if you want the transition to go almost un-noticed or not..

In Clarky's lil' world the solution is fkn simple..

just feedback for ages and bask in the noize

viz · December 2014

Lol thanks @Clarky - your final suggestion is basically what I did! And in fact it wasn't A to C after all; they'd cut the last piece so it ended on a D not an A. It was Zadok the Priest. So I just went noisily from D to C in one fell pentatonic twiddle. This is what I did (apols for posting again

)

Clarky · December 2014

@viz hi matey.. is that vid clip you playing live? [I've not seen it yet - I'll take a look later when I'm back in the studio]

viz · December 2014

Yes, on Monday. Don't analyse too carefully, there were more mistakes than correct bits!

ThePrettyDamned · December 2014

viz said:

Lol thanks @Clarky - your final suggestion is basically what I did! And in fact it wasn't A to C after all; they'd cut the last piece so it ended on a D not an A. It was Zadok the Priest. So I just went noisily from D to C in one fell pentatonic twiddle. This is what I did (apols for posting again )

Holy balls, that kicked arse.

Deijavoo · December 2014

Top Viz!

viz · December 2014

Thank you, good people! Tomorrow's the last one unfortunately

Clarky · December 2014

viz said:

Lol thanks @Clarky - your final suggestion is basically what I did! And in fact it wasn't A to C after all; they'd cut the last piece so it ended on a D not an A. It was Zadok the Priest. So I just went noisily from D to C in one fell pentatonic twiddle. This is what I did (apols for posting again )

haa… awesome… I'd have done pretty much exactly the same thing…

but less tastefully.. lmao

looks like a fun gig actually..

viz · December 2014

Less tastefully lol - cool

Branshen · December 2014

When I grow up, I want to be viz. Well done! Looks like a sick gig.

viz · December 2014

It was dope as they say

mrkb · December 2014

You appear to be dressed as a gorilla?!?! Or is it just bad lighting?

viz · December 2014

Haha

) - I'd just come from work and didn't have time to change unfortunately. (hence the cufflinks

)

http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab217/Vizzage/Mobile Uploads/image_zpse254ee2b.jpg

mrkb · December 2014

WTF - You dress as a Gorilla in Cufflinks for a dayjob?!?! :-0

mike_l · December 2014

^^and his night job is even more disturbing............

thomasross20 · December 2014

So envious of that gorilla suit. Where'd you get it?

Amaj -> Am -> G7 ->Cmaj/m

xHymnal · December 2014

thomasross20 said:

So envious of that gorilla suit. Where'd you get it?

Amaj -> Am -> G7 ->Cmaj/m

Borrowed it off Phil Collins

thomasross20 · December 2014

?

P.S. Loving all the vids we're seeing of forumites playing now!!

viz · December 2014

He borrowed it off me!

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