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grungebobgrungebob Frets: 3165
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Hello all. I’ve got myself confused. 
I ordered a neck filtertron pickup and it’s come in around 72mm in length on the casing. I thought they were 69 like humbuckers and it was just that filtertrons were narrower than humbuckers? 
The length of this pickup seems odd to me 
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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 13312
    TV Jones Classic Plus in my green Warmoth bitsacaster 70 x 34mm. 
    Be seeing you.
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  • grungebobgrungebob Frets: 3165
    Thanks 
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  • OilCityPickupsOilCityPickups Frets: 7616
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    Filtertron pickups are usually 70.9 wide by 33.9 some differ slightly ... normal Gibson humbuckers are 69x38mm. Filtertrons are wider and narrower ...  
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  • grungebobgrungebob Frets: 3165
    Thanks for that I’ll take a photo of each in my hand to hopefully help show what to my eyes looks a massive difference 
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  • OilCityPickupsOilCityPickups Frets: 7616
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    grungebob said:
    Thanks for that I’ll take a photo of each in my hand to hopefully help show what to my eyes looks a massive difference 
    The obvious question is what is the guitar and what is the replacement pickup? 
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  • grungebobgrungebob Frets: 3165
    OilCityPickups said:
    grungebob said:
    Thanks for that I’ll take a photo of each in my hand to hopefully help show what to my eyes looks a massive difference 
    The obvious question is what is the guitar and what is the replacement pickup? 
    Ah well the guitar in question is strat like so it’s having a new guard cut for a filtertron and a humbucker. 
    The filtertron I’ve received doesn’t look like others I’ve had. Even the feet screw positions are wrong. 
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  • OilCityPickupsOilCityPickups Frets: 7616
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    grungebob said:
    grungebob said:
    Thanks for that I’ll take a photo of each in my hand to hopefully help show what to my eyes looks a massive difference 
    The obvious question is what is the guitar and what is the replacement pickup? 
    Ah well the guitar in question is strat like so it’s having a new guard cut for a filtertron and a humbucker. 
    The filtertron I’ve received doesn’t look like others I’ve had. Even the feet screw positions are wrong. 
    'Curiouser and curiouser' cried Alice ... 
    Pic would be really interesting ... 
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  • grungebobgrungebob Frets: 3165
    Here it is 

    It’s just an Artec one for now until I decided what would work best in the guitar. The guard should be here tomorrow 
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  • OilCityPickupsOilCityPickups Frets: 7616
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    Ah that's what used to be ... and maybe still is ... sold as a 'Guitar Fetish Liverpool' I think ... I have one in a drawer somewhere ... not the same as a Filtertron at all. Not the same as anything I've ever found to fit it in, hence why it's spent about ten years in a drawer! 
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  • grungebobgrungebob Frets: 3165
    OilCityPickups said:
    Ah that's what used to be ... and maybe still is ... sold as a 'Guitar Fetish Liverpool' I think ... I have one in a drawer somewhere ... not the same as a Filtertron at all. Not the same as anything I've ever found to fit it in, hence why it's spent about ten years in a drawer! 
    Cheers. It’s going back. Nowhere I can find stocks trons it seems. 
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  • OilCityPickupsOilCityPickups Frets: 7616
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    grungebob said:
    Ah that's what used to be ... and maybe still is ... sold as a 'Guitar Fetish Liverpool' I think ... I have one in a drawer somewhere ... not the same as a Filtertron at all. Not the same as anything I've ever found to fit it in, hence why it's spent about ten years in a drawer! 
    Cheers. It’s going back. Nowhere I can find stocks trons it seems. 
    Not for cheap at least ... there's TV Jones, several others, I do my Cow-Tron traditional to order ... but cheap, proper Filtertrons are not really a thing ... the parts aren't cheap you see. 

    Stop the press ... 
    I did find these  at just over £55.00
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  • grungebobgrungebob Frets: 3165
    Wow thanks again. 
    I’ve only had limited experience with trons and those were fenders own fidelitrons , loved em. 
    Tv jones I could t find either in stock or for less than £140. I did check Oilcity but none listed. 
    Mojo was a 45+ day lead time and the creamery’s website wasn’t working for me. 
    I saw the one I bought and thought I’d give it a bash, if I still liked the idea of a tron for this guitar I’d upgrade it. 

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  • OilCityPickupsOilCityPickups Frets: 7616
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    grungebob said:
    Wow thanks again. 
    I’ve only had limited experience with trons and those were fenders own fidelitrons , loved em. 
    Tv jones I could t find either in stock or for less than £140. I did check Oilcity but none listed. 
    Mojo was a 45+ day lead time and the creamery’s website wasn’t working for me. 
    I saw the one I bought and thought I’d give it a bash, if I still liked the idea of a tron for this guitar I’d upgrade it. 

    At the moment I only do my own 'Trons' to special order - hence not seeing them on my site :-)  Those Artecs should tell you if you like the concept mind :-)
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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 13312
    The majority of budget 'Tron-alikes are regular humbuckers under a metal cover with a "H" slot through the top. There are several constructional reasons why these haven't a hope in Hell of sounding like the real thing.
    Be seeing you.
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  • OilCityPickupsOilCityPickups Frets: 7616
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    Funkfingers said:
    The majority of budget 'Tron-alikes are regular humbuckers under a metal cover with a "H" slot through the top. There are several constructional reasons why these haven't a hope in Hell of sounding like the real thing.
    You are talking about the flat topped, regular bucker sized H gate humbuckers ... they are really just any old Humbucker slapped in an H gate shell ... Gretsch used them for a while on their Electromatic series. 
    'Real'  vintage style Filtertrons  have double thickness alnico magnets, smaller bobbins that go under the narrower covers and a very low 42awg wind ..,. not usually much over 5k if that! Their tone comes mostly from the stonking great magnet and narrow, underwound  coils.
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  • rprrpr Frets: 302
    @grungebob ; Have you seen Flector pickups? https://www.fletcherpickups.co.uk/fletchertrons  
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  • rprrpr Frets: 302
    It is possible to get filtertrons in standard HM size as well...
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  • grungebobgrungebob Frets: 3165
    @rpr  I had mate thanks. 
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