What is it and what is it worth?

Sarge · October 2023

So a friend is looking to move on her late father's LP and doesn't want to get short changed.
Not being an LP guy I've little idea, so can you chaps help?
what model, year and rough value would you say?

fastonebaz · October 2023

Nice colour.

GoldenEraGuitars · October 2023

No idea what specific LP model it is but I found this online

guitars4you · October 2023

Yes it is a 2003 LP Standard - From 2002 until around 2006, this series will have a strong following amongst LP fans - First time really that Gibson made the LP Standard with more of a 'vintage' flavour - Not R9 CS replicas as such - But headstock angle, paf based pick-ups, figured top, thinner body binding - A private sale could fetch £1500-1800 with case and assuming the frets are clean and everything else is okay

stickyfiddle · October 2023

@guitars4you is spot on. Really nice Standards.

They came with a choice of 50s (fat) and 60s (thin) necks - savvy buyers will want to know which one this is but that should affect value.

guitars4you · October 2023

stickyfiddle said:

@guitars4you is spot on. Really nice Standards.

They came with a choice of 50s (fat) and 60s (thin) necks - savvy buyers will want to know which one this is but that should affect value.

Correct on the neck profile
can sometimes tell by the feel if you’ve handled enough
Otherwise look in the pickup cavity and you often find a code that infers 50,a or 60,s

plus it will have a code for the finish

tony99 · October 2023

Very nice flame top on it too. Plus, I think that might have had an upgraded bridge and stopbar.

BowynMadley · October 2023

I'd punt it at £2k and be realistic with offers. It's in good condition for a close to 20 year old guitar. Providing it comes with its original case and any original bits that may have been swapped out

CampbellH · October 2023

If you can. Stick on a new set of strings, set intonation and give all the chrome a good clean/polish up whilst the old uns are off. That will help get the most value out of the guitar.

Sarge · October 2023

Thanks for all the help guys, very much appreciated indeedy!

BigPaulie · October 2023

That bridge looks right to me alongside the pups and tuners.

It all looks like nickel rather than chrome, so polishing will only do so much. FWIW many people (myself included) prefer the look of dulled nickel over shiny chrome.

Very nice guitar. IIRC there was quite a hullabaloo when the 2002 models were released. Were I in the market for a modern Standard, it's a 2002 spec I'd be after.

tony99 · October 2023

BigPaulie said:

That bridge looks right to me alongside the pups and tuners.

It all looks like nickel rather than chrome, so polishing will only do so much. FWIW many people (myself included) prefer the look of dulled nickel over shiny chrome.

Very nice guitar. IIRC there was quite a hullabaloo when the 2002 models were released. Were I in the market for a modern Standard, it's a 2002 spec I'd be after.

oh fair enough, I thought they would have had chrome bits on them as standard. I agree, looks better with the dull nickel

stickyfiddle · October 2023

BigPaulie said:

That bridge looks right to me alongside the pups and tuners.

It all looks like nickel rather than chrome, so polishing will only do so much. FWIW many people (myself included) prefer the look of dulled nickel over shiny chrome.

Very nice guitar. IIRC there was quite a hullabaloo when the 2002 models were released. Were I in the market for a modern Standard, it's a 2002 spec I'd be after.

Yep all of this. It's definitely nickel on that model - I remember the marketing making a big fuss about it as the previous ones had chrome.

FWIW I'd get the frets polished but leave the hardware as-is. It'll never look new anyway

guitars4you · October 2023

BigPaulie said:

That bridge looks right to me alongside the pups and tuners.

It all looks like nickel rather than chrome, so polishing will only do so much. FWIW many people (myself included) prefer the look of dulled nickel over shiny chrome.

Very nice guitar. IIRC there was quite a hullabaloo when the 2002 models were released. Were I in the market for a modern Standard, it's a 2002 spec I'd be after.

agree

Interesting that come 2002, Gibson did so much to get the LP Standard right as a production model - Then come 2006 and onwards, they did so many changes that destroyed the heritage of that small era - That era has many followers when it comes to owning/buying an LP

ICBM · October 2023

This was the last time that the Les Paul Standard was actually a Standard. That spec is now the Traditional. I’m not a fan of corroded nickel, but a lot of people do like it.

They also got it right for the pickguard sceptics by not factory-fitting it, although there should be one (and the screws) included if I remember rightly.

Sarge · October 2023

This has now been listed here for sale.
go on, you know you want to

https://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/255266/wts-2003-les-paul-standard?new=1

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