Poopot's Cover Challenge #24 - K - voting

flying_pie · October 2023

Well it's finally time to vote on the letter K

you can hear all the tracks in the playlist:

https://soundcloud.com/thefretboard/sets/poopots-cover-challenge-24-the

All that is required is to pick your top three and post them in the thread below.

Points are awarded as follows - 5 points for first place, 3 points for second place and 1 point for third place.

There is a bonus 5 points for covering the specified track which was Killer Queen by Queen

Entrants obviously aren't allowed to vote for themselves. Voting closes at 11.30pm on Friday 6th October 2023

The entry with the most points gets to pick the next song to be covered. In the event of a tie for first place then all those tied will choose a song.

ALL ENTRANTS PLEASE HAVE YOUR IDEAS READY FOR THE NEXT CHALLENGE. YOU WILL HAVE ONLY 48HRS AFTER VOTING CLOSES TO MESSAGE ME WITH YOUR SONG CHOICE. IF YOU FAIL TO DO SO THEN I'LL END UP CHOOSING IT FOR YOU!

Good luck

fnpt · October 2023

1- IMC1980

2- Flying Pie

3- Stratman

stratman3142 · October 2023

5 points : @IMC1980 ; : You've got a head start with this one, because I really like the original. This is a great rocky treatment. Big punchy sound. Great vocals.

3 points : @thecolourbox ; : A sparse and melancholy treatment. Nice guitar and I like your voice, as I've said before. Nice subtle vocal layered effects.

1 point : @mrkb ; : I was unfamilar with this one, which put it at a slight disadvantage. I need to listen to more Motley Crew as they're a bit of a blind spot for me. Great version. You've capture loads of energy, giving it a manic punk rock type sound. Blimey those vocals sound high.

guitartango · October 2023

5: Point to Idiot Wind, karma reminds of Country Joe and the Fish
3: @thecolourbox , also like a bit of Simon and Funkel
1 @mrkb Nice tune (no idea of the song !)

IMC1980 · October 2023

I have really struggled with this crop of entries due to only being able to give points to the three people and really liking everything submitted. Spent the last 4 days trying to decide and this is the closest I have been to a firm order:

5 points @Bezzer - This is what the cover challenge is all about IMO, I often feel like a bit of a one trick pony with my covers and I love a rendition that is this left-field. Dark, ominous vibes from the very beginning and it only gets more hypnotic. I am also into the epic Arabian backbeat and the general twisty, writhing uneasiness of it all. Brilliant!

3 points @idiotwind (Karma Chameleon) - This is like the inside of head when I am going through a mood swing, reminds me of Sergeant Peppers in the verses and bridge and I am a sucker for a backwards guitar solo. Really close to being top spot.

1 point @flying_pie - I love Killer and this is a tasty rock version with some quality breaks. Some nice notes hit vocally as well

Also wanted to mention @thecolourbox your acoustic guitar recording really hit the spot and you vocal harmonies were very cool.

Well done to everyone else!

flying_pie · October 2023

5 points @IMC1980 - absolute banger and superb vocals. When you're totally on it the end result is fantastic.

3 points @thecolourbox - I don't know why you didn't want to send this in. Such a nice version

1 point @idiotwind - karma chameleon - very creative and well executed. I love that you had the idea well in advance and went balls deep with it.

Sorry to the others. It's a cliché but there really wasn't much in it and my top 3 changed on more than a few occasions. Loving the variety all round

thecolourbox · October 2023

My Votes are as follows

5 points - King Nothing - @Bezzer. Just a ridiculous piece of music, so many outrageous things going on at the same time and somehow holds together as some kind of nightmarish collage

3 points - Killing Queen - @stratman3142. Nicely done, probably fairly close to what I was hoping to do with Killer Queen actually, a kind of jazzy swung version although I would have been on piano and vocals instead of guitar, though I was hoping to do the solos on guitar (which held me back unfortunately as I couldn't play them well enough).

1 point - Kids in America - @IMC1980. Professional sounding and full of energy as ever, nicely rocked up.

Well done to everybody though, feels mean to leave people out, I genuinely liked something from each of them. Thanks all for sharing

thecolourbox · October 2023

I'm genuinely surprised to be scoring any points amongst a very strong field with my entry, as I said in the other thread I wasn't very happy with it overall. Thank you all for the very kind comments above

Some very brief "liner notes" as is my oversharing tradition:

Acoustic guitar recorded with a vocal mic near the soundhole and a single coil magnetic pickup into the interface. Panned left and right and a fair amount of EQ and compressor added to make it sound ok. The more electric guitar sounding side is the magnetic pickup, then the stringy attack is the mic
I was playing along to a metronome, which is something i find extremely difficult to do (my background as a solo pianist would probably account for this). I feel like the playing sounds like I'm constantly about to trip up, struggling to keep in time.
Another thing I find extremely difficult is singing the same rhythm twice when harmonising, hence there are a few times where the harmony comes in way before the tune and sounds a bit "eeek". I think I need to get the Vocalign plugin or something similar
I think there are two main reasons why I'm not very happy with it. Firstly is that recording acoustic guitar is incredibly annoying and takes an age to get it sounding right without bashing the mic with my picking hand or the mic picking up my breathing or chair creaks etc. Secondly is that it sounds cheesy - I don't really like "happy" music very much and therefore struggle to sing it with any real feeling. I sound like I'm trying too hard to sing it in the style of both Simon and Garfunkel at the same time so my phrasing and accent sounds odd at times, the phrasing especially sounds old fashioned to me and not "cool" and "relaxed" as I normally tend to sound.

IMC1980 · October 2023

thecolourbox said:

I'm genuinely surprised to be scoring any points amongst a very strong field with my entry, as I said in the other thread I wasn't very happy with it overall. Thank you all for the very kind comments above

Some very brief "liner notes" as is my oversharing tradition:
Acoustic guitar recorded with a vocal mic near the soundhole and a single coil magnetic pickup into the interface. Panned left and right and a fair amount of EQ and compressor added to make it sound ok. The more electric guitar sounding side is the magnetic pickup, then the stringy attack is the mic
I was playing along to a metronome, which is something i find extremely difficult to do (my background as a solo pianist would probably account for this). I feel like the playing sounds like I'm constantly about to trip up, struggling to keep in time.
Another thing I find extremely difficult is singing the same rhythm twice when harmonising, hence there are a few times where the harmony comes in way before the tune and sounds a bit "eeek". I think I need to get the Vocalign plugin or something similar
I think there are two main reasons why I'm not very happy with it. Firstly is that recording acoustic guitar is incredibly annoying and takes an age to get it sounding right without bashing the mic with my picking hand or the mic picking up my breathing or chair creaks etc. Secondly is that it sounds cheesy - I don't really like "happy" music very much and therefore struggle to sing it with any real feeling. I sound like I'm trying too hard to sing it in the style of both Simon and Garfunkel at the same time so my phrasing and accent sounds odd at times, the phrasing especially sounds old fashioned to me and not "cool" and "relaxed" as I normally tend to sound.

Glad you put it out mate, the feel of the recording reminded me of this:

Habanero · October 2023

Well done everyone on a set of quality entries. After much deliberation my votes are...

5pts: @thecolourbox

3pts: @IMC1980

1pt: @stratman3142

thecolourbox · October 2023

IMC1980 said:

Glad you put it out mate, the feel of the recording reminded me of this:

Yeah I know what you mean, my Mrs has said before my acoustic playing and singing sounds like him, well like that one he did for the Sony advert ages ago with the colourful bouncing balls going down the street. This was your posted vid before the post edit broke the link i think

And the bouncing balls one

mrkb · October 2023

Enjoyed hearing all the entries this month - a wide range of styles!

5pts - Kids in America - @IMC1980 ; would love to find out the technique you use to record vocals and backing vox - sounds great
3pts - Karma Chameleon - @Idiotwind - thats alot of effort and a great result for a completely new take on a cover!
1pt - Killer - @flying_pie , haunting interpretation.

Emp_Fab · October 2023

Nobody's going to mention it then ? The one with the um.... interesting vocals... ?

I don't want to rock the boat but is this one of these things where everyone gets a medal for taking part ?

mrkb · October 2023

Emp_Fab said:

Nobody's going to mention it then ? The one with the um.... interesting vocals... ?

I don't want to rock the boat but is this one of these things where everyone gets a medal for taking part ?

Hey I did my best. Who let the troll in???

Emp_Fab · October 2023

What makes you think I'm talking about you ?

I'm not trolling. It's a genuine question ! I'm not staying in here, I just happened across it and was slightly puzzled by everyone pretending not to notice.

Bezzer · October 2023

Emp_Fab said:

I'm not trolling. It's a genuine question ! I'm not staying in here, I just happened across it and was slightly puzzled by everyone pretending not to notice.

It is trolling, even if not intentionally. To give an honest answer ... because unlike vast swathes of this forum THIS bit is about encouraging people to take part, to hear different ideas, to improve yourself and maybe learn from everyone else. I can hand on heart say I've enjoyed listen to every track everyone has submitted for every challenge. Absolutely genuinely.

But you know, noted, if you choose to enter one I will make sure to give you a suitable critique of your talents or lack thereof.

Bezzer · October 2023

Right now that's off my chest ...

Honestly, so much good stuff again. Inventive arrangements, cool sound choices, the full gamut of styles it's really hard to pick which to give points too. Please forgive me if you're not on my list!

5 points : @thecolourbox - One of my favourite records of all time, which I still listen to probably weekly, is Graham Coxon's The Spinning Top, this reminded me of Graham at his peak and sounds absolutely perfect. Actually bought a tear. Well done.

3 points : @IMC1980 - that is some slick rock right there. I've done this song in various bands and it's never sounded that good, you annoying twat!

1 point : @MRKB - I was going to do this and the idea of Vince's vocals scared me off, even if his version is so far from in tune I could probably have shat through a kazoo and got closer. Something about the raw energy of this appealed to me and it's a banging tune.

That order and even selection could change tomorrow when I've not had a beer ... I don't know. It's been another fun one though, and really glad to see a decent number on entries. Same for L please y'all!

Emp_Fab · October 2023

Bezzer said:

Emp_Fab said:

I'm not trolling. It's a genuine question ! I'm not staying in here, I just happened across it and was slightly puzzled by everyone pretending not to notice.

It is trolling, even if not intentionally. To give an honest answer ... because unlike vast swathes of this forum THIS bit is about encouraging people to take part, to hear different ideas, to improve yourself and maybe learn from everyone else. I can hand on heart say I've enjoyed listen to every track everyone has submitted for every challenge. Absolutely genuinely.

But you know, noted, if you choose to enter one I will make sure to give you a suitable critique of your talents or lack thereof.

Ok. But how can anyone "improve themselves" if they don't get any honest feedback? Not one person here has offered any help or constructive criticism for the particular entry I'm referring to. In fact, no-one has made any reference to it at all. Pretending it doesn't exist isn't helping the artist improve, it's just selfish.

That's not trolling - it's honesty.

Anyway, I'll leave you all to it. I have no desire to derail this thread any further.

Habanero · October 2023

We should definitely all do ‘More Than A Feeling’ for the ‘M’ round.

flying_pie · October 2023

Habanero said:

We should definitely all do ‘More Than A Feeling’ for the ‘M’ round.

And "We Don't Take About Bruno" when it comes to W

There's actually a perfect response track starting with L

but I'm not going to name it as I'lm going to track it this weekend and wouldn't want to influence the winner's song choice

mrkb · October 2023

flying_pie said:

Habanero said:

We should definitely all do ‘More Than A Feeling’ for the ‘M’ round.

And "We Don't Take About Bruno" when it comes to W

There's actually a perfect response track starting with L

but I'm not going to name it as I'lm going to track it this weekend and wouldn't want to influence the winner's song choice

Is it Becks classic hit?

flying_pie · October 2023

Reminder that voting closes tonight at 11.30pm

And trolling closes at 9.30am today so better get those last shots fired, bruh

flying_pie · October 2023

mrkb said:

flying_pie said:

Habanero said:

We should definitely all do ‘More Than A Feeling’ for the ‘M’ round.

And "We Don't Take About Bruno" when it comes to W

There's actually a perfect response track starting with L

but I'm not going to name it as I'lm going to track it this weekend and wouldn't want to influence the winner's song choice

Is it Becks classic hit?

No. But that would fit well too.

This is a contemporary female artist who is well known for directly responding to critics through her art (not Adele)

thecolourbox · October 2023

I suppose we've done well to get up to Cover Challenge #24 without having to reverently invoke Forum Rule #1 (and maybe Forum Rule #2). Such a flagrant call for attention, which is fine in Off Topic but really frustrating in what is an actively positive and supportive area of the forum for those of us who actually have the guts to put stuff out there to be heard, rather than just hiding behind their childish sneers in the area of the site which has nothing to do with the subject of the site.

As somebody who struggles with confidence/esteem as well as procrastination responses, it actually feels good to put things in to the Cover and Composition challenges and see my work alongside others who've done the same because it's a supportive and encouraging crowd.

If I were a newbie to it, I'd probably think twice if I knew some goblin would just sit there sneering at the stuff wrong with my entries, which is a sad thought - in fact would you like to rip mine apart for all the things wrong with it? My poor time keeping, my missed beat on the intro, my slightly flat F# at the ends of phrases, the timing and false starts of my harmonies, the two much reverb and eq on my vocal, i've probably also exported at the wrong volume again, it's a bit one dimensional and dull for you perhaps. These are all the kinds of insecurities the good folks here work hard to overcome in the interest of keeping this going - who are you to come in and sneer at one specific thing you didn't like?

I'll step back off my soapbox and may well remove this rant later when I cool down as I don't want to derail the thread giving headspace to this kind of nonsense

Habanero · October 2023

By coincidence I've recently written the lyrics for a song about internet trolling, which I eventually intend to enter in the Composition Challenge. Whether I'll get time before this deadline remains to be seen...

thecolourbox · October 2023

Back on topic, blimey @Bezzer comparing to Graham Coxon, very flattered with that and will take it and run

IMC1980 · October 2023

Emp_Fab said:

Bezzer said:

Emp_Fab said:

I'm not trolling. It's a genuine question ! I'm not staying in here, I just happened across it and was slightly puzzled by everyone pretending not to notice.

It is trolling, even if not intentionally. To give an honest answer ... because unlike vast swathes of this forum THIS bit is about encouraging people to take part, to hear different ideas, to improve yourself and maybe learn from everyone else. I can hand on heart say I've enjoyed listen to every track everyone has submitted for every challenge. Absolutely genuinely.

But you know, noted, if you choose to enter one I will make sure to give you a suitable critique of your talents or lack thereof.

Ok. But how can anyone "improve themselves" if they don't get any honest feedback? Not one person here has offered any help or constructive criticism for the particular entry I'm referring to. In fact, no-one has made any reference to it at all. Pretending it doesn't exist isn't helping the artist improve, it's just selfish.

That's not trolling - it's honesty.

Anyway, I'll leave you all to it. I have no desire to derail this thread any further.

Insults someone in the playlist but doesn't actually say who he is referring to, goes on to insult the competition itself, calls all of the participants selfish then makes a sharp exit, leaving his presence on this thread lingering like a stale turd...

You seem to be confused about the nature of this challenge:

All that is required is to pick your top three and post them in the thread below.

Pick what you like best, which is what everyone (apart from you) has done, offering congratulations to everyone who took the time, put in the effort and put themselves out there is not "giving everyone a medal for taking part" it is just some common courtesy and who are you to tell others that have enjoyed all of the entries that they are wrong? I would encourage you to record a cover for the next challenge so you can show us all how it is done.

People do seek feedback on occasion, this is normally done over PMs unless requested in the thread and feedback would always be constructive. Speaking of which, what is your feedback for "The one with the um.... interesting vocals... ?" would you care to expand on your statement and offer anything of actual value, or are you by your own standards going to be selfish by not offering the entrant to opportunity to improve? Looking forward to hearing your critique!

We improve our ability through practice, and this challenge gives people the opportunity to do this across their vocal, instrumental, recording and production skill-sets. We have been doing this for over 5 years now and you are the first person to come on to one of these threads, make shitty remarks that insult the competition, it's entrants and their efforts and provide nothing of any actual use or substance. If you want to vote or provide the feedback you feel is required, please go ahead. Otherwise fuck off back to the bridge you live under.

idiotwind · October 2023

5 pts to @IMC1980 ;
3 pts to @stratman3142 ;
1 pt to @mrkb ;

fnpt · October 2023

Suggestion for next challenges: why don't we drop the "The" from song names? That would allow a significant increase in the number of songs we can cover for each letter. Otherwise, when we get to the letter T, there will a huge choice.

flying_pie · October 2023

fnpt said:

Suggestion for next challenges: why don't we drop the "The" from song names?

So that means you want to do The Look by Roxette for L?

fnpt · October 2023

flying_pie said:

fnpt said:

Suggestion for next challenges: why don't we drop the "The" from song names?

So that means you want to do The Look by Roxette for L?

You read my mind

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