7 new pico pedals released by EHX

jpttaylor · September 2023

Some really cool looking pedals for those conscious of pedalboard space. The price point is a little higher than I’d expected but they’ll probably come down eventually.

https://www.gearnews.com/electro-harmonix-nyc-dsp-series-pedals-unveiled/

benmurray85 · September 2023

There isn’t enough LOL buttons in the world for those prices!

The proof will be in the pudding as to whether they sound 2/3 times better than a mooer/nux/tone city competition!!!

mburekenge · September 2023

Was hoping for a pico Q-tron

EricTheWeary · September 2023

Yes, the prices seem optimistic compared to the competition. But when they come up in the January sales I'll be looking at the ReRun (possibly).

Sassafras · September 2023

Blimey!
Since when did EHX start charging boutique prices?

jellybelly · September 2023

I thought the prices were a bit high, but it's not for your standard TS or Dyna Comp clone - it's their very clever digital stuff. Given it takes half of a HX Effects' DSP power to run a Freeze or Poly Octave, I'd say they are amazingly small.

Still expensive though, by any measure

ScreamingDave · September 2023

Well, I was really excited when I first saw this thread, but they’re not the EHX pedals I’d like to have titchy versions of, and the price is scary!

so now I’m really disappointed

GoFish · September 2023

I want to second those of us who've mentioned that these are pretty complex (and not cheap) DSP pedals to begin with. But I also want to say:

Down with this sort of thing.

Pedals should be bigger, not smaller. Don't believe the hype! Have fewer. larger pedals instead.

GavRichList · September 2023

POG and Freeze are two of my favourite pedals so would be interested to hear these micro machines versions.

Whitecat · September 2023

A PSU is included which explains a very slight amount of the price… but yeah, I was raised to believe that mini pedals should be a little cheaper than their full-size counterparts.

Still interested though, because I can’t help myself…

GavRichList · September 2023

I sort of feel the same. Batshit prices, mind.

english_bob · September 2023

Whitecat said:

I was raised to believe that mini pedals should be a little cheaper than their full-size counterparts.

I can kind of justify to myself why they don't cost any less than the big versions when the functionality is the same and essentially nothing is different but the size of the box and the knobs (And the pots. And the components...).

It's like selling the same app for iOS and Android. It's the same game on XBox and Playstation. It's saying "here's what it'll cost to get this effect, but don't let the fact that there's only a little space left on your pedalboard stop you buying one. Same shit, different box."

...but I don't think I'd buy that if we were talking about a teeny-weeny Big Muff. That should definitely cost less than a big Big Muff.

thecolourbox · September 2023

I suppose small things aren't necessarily cheaper than big things. I bought some Tenderstem Broccoli yesterday and it cost more than a big stick of normal broccoli

GavRichList · September 2023

thecolourbox said:

I suppose small things aren't necessarily cheaper than big things. I bought some Tenderstem Broccoli yesterday and it cost more than a big stick of normal broccoli

I have never considered “stick” to be a unit of measurement for broccoli.

EricTheWeary · September 2023

I used to know someone who grew purple sprouting broccoli. Picked and cooked the same day delicious. Otherwise all broccoli is essentially acceptable but basically tasteless filler, like when they have Primal Scream on festival line ups.

Winny_Pooh · September 2023

Has the fashion for micro pedals not died out yet? I have the regular Canyon and Oceans 11 which are faultless so if you're a micro user you'll be chuffed.

Whitecat · September 2023

english_bob said:

Whitecat said:

I was raised to believe that mini pedals should be a little cheaper than their full-size counterparts.

I can kind of justify to myself why they don't cost any less than the big versions when the functionality is the same and essentially nothing is different but the size of the box and the knobs (And the pots. And the components...).

It's like selling the same app for iOS and Android. It's the same game on XBox and Playstation. It's saying "here's what it'll cost to get this effect, but don't let the fact that there's only a little space left on your pedalboard stop you buying one. Same shit, different box."

...but I don't think I'd buy that if we were talking about a teeny-weeny Big Muff. That should definitely cost less than a big Big Muff.

A lot of mini pedals omit battery capability - not all because some don't even support them on their bigger versions, but loads do. Also, they just physically use less raw material... so I suppose those are two things that stick out to me.

There are occasions when they do justify costing more... MXR's Carbon Copy Mini is an example - the mini version actually has more functionality than the standard sized version... so that's fair...

Anyway I do understand that the prices of things are not related to how much they cost to make, so this is just me being grumpy about the prices full stop, really.

stickyfiddle · September 2023

I like brocoli quite a lot more than I like Primal Scream

I don't really have an opinion on these new EHXs. It's been a very long time since I had any EHX stuff actually.

thecolourbox · September 2023

GavRichList said:

thecolourbox said:

I suppose small things aren't necessarily cheaper than big things. I bought some Tenderstem Broccoli yesterday and it cost more than a big stick of normal broccoli

I have never considered “stick” to be a unit of measurement for broccoli.

I wasn't sure what the word was so went with stick, is it a Pico of broccoli? Is that why I've got broccoli on the brain?
Or should I say, is that where it stems from, ho ho ho boom boom

Anyway, cool pedals, bit steep but I'm sure they have their place. I'd like to see mashup pedals combining two compatible effects though - a POGFork perhaps

menamestom · September 2023

I'm not a fan of mini pedals, they don't feel great underfoot, they don't save much space due to the jack locations and if they break they are far harder, or impossible to fix. I had a Phase 95 and a switch stopped working, so that was that.

A decent discrete homebuild or something like a Jam pedal can be repaired easily and indefinitely, so certainly in the case of simple analog circuits I'd never go for a mini pedal.

A fairly moot point here as they are mainly DSP, but I'd generally go nano over pico all things being equal.

Re the POG, I'd go Micro over nano because it sounds better, but would like to try the pico, just to complicate things.

prlgmnr · September 2023

yay for a (good) octave pedal that will fit with the ethos of my mini pedal board

nay for the price of the thing

GoFish · September 2023

GavRichList said:

thecolourbox said:

I suppose small things aren't necessarily cheaper than big things. I bought some Tenderstem Broccoli yesterday and it cost more than a big stick of normal broccoli

I have never considered “stick” to be a unit of measurement for broccoli.

Americans use it to measure butter but then they'll do anything to avoid the metric system.

SpoonMan · September 2023

Primal scream are feckin awesome!

soma1975 · September 2023

All over a Pico Pitchfork for something I want to have the option of but don't have enough space for a regular one.

Bezzer · September 2023

Dont' really understand the price complaints (other than we all want things cheaper, and there's nothing there really I want) but most are ~ $150 so ...£120 ish?

MXR, Dunlop, Wampler et al ... all charge more for similar devices. Comparing to Mooer or Landlord feels a little off the mark if they ARE as good as their big brothers.

Never thought Micros were meant to be "cheaper" just "the same in a smaller box" which, lets be honest, is often quite handy for EHX stuff.

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