Beware Klon fakes…..not replicas….

Voxsupertwin · September 2023

https://www.musicradar.com/news/bill-finnegan-fake-klon-centaur-warning

Voxsupertwin · September 2023

Thing is, having identified the discrepancies how long before the counterfeiters sort it out so that it’s impossible to tell?

Sassafras · September 2023

The only people who'll get stung are the collectors and they're the ones who've driven the prices up to where they are.
I can't get too upset about it.

Voxsupertwin · September 2023

Neither can I but it’s best to keep up to speed ?

Seziertisch · September 2023

I’d imagine the goop on the circuit board makes faking one that much easier.

idiotwindow · September 2023

It's not all that surprising considering a Klon is essentially a crudely made aluminium box with a few dollars worth of components soldered inside but potentially worth a few thousand pounds. It's not like faking a Vermeer.

dano · September 2023

Are they using fake goop ?

SpoonMan · September 2023

I had Klon fakes for my breakfast.

mrkb · September 2023

dano said:

Are they using fake goop ?

Choop?

alalalkasar · September 2023

dano said:

Are they using fake goop ?

You can definitely hear the difference between Bill's original goop and the inferior goop used on the clones. The higher quality of goop makes spending the extra money worth it.

darthed1981 · September 2023

idiotwindow said:

It's not all that surprising considering a Klon is essentially a crudely made aluminium box with a few dollars worth of components soldered inside but potentially worth a few thousand pounds. It's not like faking a Vermeer.

Can't you get a perfectly decent clone for a few quid anyhow?

https://www.andertons.co.uk/tone-city-bad-horse-overdrive-pedal-excluding-power-supply

I've suffered for that link - had Lee on the phone trying to sell me victory amps for some reason ever since I clicked it...

Sassafras · September 2023

darthed1981 said:

idiotwindow said:

It's not all that surprising considering a Klon is essentially a crudely made aluminium box with a few dollars worth of components soldered inside but potentially worth a few thousand pounds. It's not like faking a Vermeer.

Can't you get a perfectly decent clone for a few quid anyhow?

https://www.andertons.co.uk/tone-city-bad-horse-overdrive-pedal-excluding-power-supply

I've suffered for that link - had Lee on the phone trying to sell me victory amps for some reason ever since I clicked it...

I think he owns the phone networks as well.

exocet · September 2023

Sassafras said:

darthed1981 said:

idiotwindow said:

It's not all that surprising considering a Klon is essentially a crudely made aluminium box with a few dollars worth of components soldered inside but potentially worth a few thousand pounds. It's not like faking a Vermeer.

Can't you get a perfectly decent clone for a few quid anyhow?

https://www.andertons.co.uk/tone-city-bad-horse-overdrive-pedal-excluding-power-supply

I've suffered for that link - had Lee on the phone trying to sell me victory amps for some reason ever since I clicked it...

I think he owns the phone networks as well.

Don’t be daft, owning the phone networks it’s proper 8Chan grade conspiracy shit.

However, I have it good authority that Lee owns the batch of original diodes that are responsible for creating the unique Centaur sonic spectrum. He’s drip feeding Bill Finnegan limited quantities to fund his retirement.

Jazzy_Jake · September 2023

Meh, I'm not sure about this. Just seems like Mr Finnegan generating hype (again). Surely the number of people accidentally/unknowingly buying a fake/replica Klon for real Klon money is vanishingly small or perhaps zero?

soma1975 · September 2023

Whenever I hear that Bill has put another Klon on ebay for 'his friend' I always assume he is paying off a loan shark.

Jazzy_Jake · September 2023

Also funny Bill has not addressed the real elephant in the room. The capacitors in original Klons are now reaching the end of their lifespan (especially if the pedal has been used heavily) and in the next few years people are going to buy a real Klon for silly money only to find it doesn't work properly and the circuit is covered in resin.

In that case, even if Bill replaces the circuit for you, haven't you essentially purchased a very expensive (and crappy looking) sand cast aluminium box?

Seziertisch · September 2023

soma1975 said:

Whenever I hear that Bill has put another Klon on ebay for 'his friend' I always assume he is paying off a loan shark.

It’s probably easier than running it as a business. Every couple of months you come out of retirement, spend a couple of hours making a pedal, you stick it up on EBay, sell it for 6 or 7 grand, and then go back to being retired.

Voxsupertwin · September 2023

darthed1981 said:

idiotwindow said:

It's not all that surprising considering a Klon is essentially a crudely made aluminium box with a few dollars worth of components soldered inside but potentially worth a few thousand pounds. It's not like faking a Vermeer.

Can't you get a perfectly decent clone for a few quid anyhow?

https://www.andertons.co.uk/tone-city-bad-horse-overdrive-pedal-excluding-power-supply

I've suffered for that link - had Lee on the phone trying to sell me victory amps for some reason ever since I clicked it...

I’ve got the Chinese

Voxsupertwin · September 2023

I’ve got a Demonfx Cloned Klon…….I defy anyone to tell the difference in a blindfold test from a real Klon….

stonevibe · September 2023

I've owned multiple original Klon pedals and owned two at the same time at one point, so I could A/B them and they all sounded a little different.

Gadget · September 2023

I've just been watching the Anderton's blind test Klon Centaur challenge, where the Wampler Tumnus sounded more authentic than the actual Centaur.

RaymondLin · September 2023

One thing people seldom mention are that these Klons or Klons or any analogue circuits are that the parts have a tolerance but there is a variable within all of them, so they are all going to sound different to each other anyway, Even between 2 back to back Klons. So to say a Klon sounds different to a Klone could be just down to tolerance.

Fingers657 · September 2023

I bought a Warm Audio Centavo with the Jeff Beck Mod switch on the back a while back.
Compared it to an original and it’s right up there if not better?
The price is definitely better .

https://www.gak.co.uk/en/warm-audio-wa-cv-centavo-overdrive-pedal/959313

I was that impressed I bought all the Warm Audio pedals.

Secret_Sam · September 2023

Do you have their groovy-looking fuzz, covered in orange velvet? Do you like it?

I'm thinking of getting one, as soon as my 24 inch flares come back from the dry cleaners.

Dominic · September 2023

I had a Decibelics ,Tumnus and a Ceriatone side by side for weeks ..........I really could tell them apart blindfolded ;
Tumnus always thicker and more bassy
Decibelics thicker in the mids than the Ceriatone but like Tumnus without over-bassy
When they were over 4 o clock ....they sounded similar although Ceriatone was clearest but it's not what they are for

Fingers657 · September 2023

Secret_Sam said:

Do you have their groovy-looking fuzz, covered in orange velvet? Do you like it?

I'm thinking of getting one, as soon as my 24 inch flares come back from the dry cleaners.

Yes the Foxy Tone Box is covered in orange flocking.
It’s a Fabulous Fuzz box.

https://ibb.co/g4M3FSV

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