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Gibson white button tuners on LP specials etc - different to tulip ones?

noisepolluternoisepolluter Frets: 721
edited September 2023 in Guitar
The white button tuners on my tribute special feel a bit different to the green(ish) tulip ones on my SG standard 61 - the SG ones feel a bit more precise and solid, though the casing looks the same. They’re individual tuners, not 3-on-a-plate on the special.

Can anyone confirm if they’re different beyond the type of button? 

(Both guitars are modern ones)
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  • Philly_QPhilly_Q Frets: 20197
    I think they are pretty much the same, although Gibson have changed suppliers over the years.  The "Gibson Deluxe" Kluson-alikes used to be made by Schaller, long ago, but I don't know who makes them now. 

    For a very brief time they used TonePros-Kluson tuners on some models, which I think (I may be wrong) are the same as those now sold by Faber.  Again, they look almost exactly like the Gibson Deluxes. 

    It's confusing...

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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 69426
    There are at least three different manufacturers of these, which all look very similar. There are slight differences in the shape of the castings -especially how ‘square’ the corners are - and the quality/shininess of the nickel plating.

    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski

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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 13312
    edited September 2023
    All of the twenty first Century "Gibson Deluxe" Kluson-alike machineheads I have seen were made by Ping Well. I invariably find them slightly sloppy with noticeable gear lash. This was all the excuse I needed to upgrade my Noughties LP Junior Special to a Schaller STK set with the proper white "bean" buttons.

    One other difference to be aware of, vintage-correct 'heads have a push-in bushing in an 8mm drilled hole whereas the modern ones may have a threaded nut and washer arrangement requiring a 10mm hole. Adapter bushings are available but sometimes look odd.
    Be seeing you.
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  • noisepolluternoisepolluter Frets: 721
    Thanks @Funkfingers , in that case I think I’ll upgrade to Schallers in due course. 
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