***** me, Danny’s invention on TPS

EricTheWeary · August 2023

https://youtu.be/YSqE6HNa3Gg?si=idy9aC10t46QSlsH

not watched it so apologies if they don’t like it!!!

fretmeister · August 2023

Which one is his?

Sporky · August 2023

Isn't it the Dr Watson Lion Tamer at 28 minutes?

Kittyfrisk · August 2023

^ Yep.

CaseOfAce · August 2023

I'll admit I've only skimmed the video - but.. I must be missing something - I don't quite understand "the problem" they are trying to address.
The volume taper thing was fixed in the MKIVs - and that spiky, transient attack thing they are describing is... the sound of the clean channel on the amp?
For sure - you could describe it as "harsh" if using it at home volumes as they are ..but why not just wind down your tone control on the guitar to deal with it?
Live - with drums and bass kicking in - the amp sounds great in the mix to me?

mrkb · August 2023

Do they review (aka promote) one of the Gigrigs products as well?

EricTheWeary · August 2023

When they looked at the HRD before there were a few comments (including mine) saying what about the Lion Tamer? I'm fairly gobsmacked that they paid any attention.
Worth watching the section with it in (if you have an HRD I guess worth watching the whole thing).

I'll tag @Danny1969 whilst I'm here.

theatreanchor · August 2023

CaseOfAce said:

I'll admit I've only skimmed the video - but.. I must be missing something - I don't quite understand "the problem" they are trying to address.
The volume taper thing was fixed in the MKIVs - and that spiky, transient attack thing they are describing is... the sound of the clean channel on the amp?
For sure - you could describe it as "harsh" if using it at home volumes as they are ..but why not just wind down your tone control on the guitar to deal with it?
Live - with drums and bass kicking in - the amp sounds great in the mix to me?

Right! I don’t get it either. Each time I think I’ll sell my HRDx, I play it (live and loud) and think it’s bloody marvellous and I must be mad to part with it.

roberty · August 2023

theatreanchor said:

CaseOfAce said:

I'll admit I've only skimmed the video - but.. I must be missing something - I don't quite understand "the problem" they are trying to address.
The volume taper thing was fixed in the MKIVs - and that spiky, transient attack thing they are describing is... the sound of the clean channel on the amp?
For sure - you could describe it as "harsh" if using it at home volumes as they are ..but why not just wind down your tone control on the guitar to deal with it?
Live - with drums and bass kicking in - the amp sounds great in the mix to me?

Right! I don’t get it either. Each time I think I’ll sell my HRDx, I play it (live and loud) and think it’s bloody marvellous and I must be mad to part with it.

It just gives you more flexibility for dialling in the sweet spot at different volumes. I much prefer clean channels when they compress personally, not into the spiky thing so much

impmann · August 2023

There is a reason why the HRDx is one of the most popular valve amps ever - its flippin brilliant. The volume taper thing was *improved* on later ones, I wouldn't quite go as far as to say its linear but its better.
The lion tamer was a game changer for me, though, as it meant I could open the amp up more to the sweet spot (they mention it in the video) and it comes 'alive'.

I don't hear the unusual mids they talk about - yes they are quite 'forward' for a Fender but that means in a live environment (where ultimately most are used) that translates into a voice that carries well in a mix. I don't think they sound that "unusual" though...

I haven't got the valve swap element of the vid - but my own experiences weren't great there. I really didn't like the amp with different valves in the preamp - despite all the "choirs of angels" bollocks on certain forums about changing the preamp valves to lower gain. Frankly I thought it sounded flat as a fart...

Every time I think about selling mine, I plug it in and loose myself... fantastic amps. I love 'em...

fretmeister · August 2023

Quite a cool device.

What if you need to use the loop for time based effects? Just Janky the Lion Tamer to the end of the FX chain?

theatreanchor · August 2023

roberty said:

theatreanchor said:

CaseOfAce said:

I'll admit I've only skimmed the video - but.. I must be missing something - I don't quite understand "the problem" they are trying to address.
The volume taper thing was fixed in the MKIVs - and that spiky, transient attack thing they are describing is... the sound of the clean channel on the amp?
For sure - you could describe it as "harsh" if using it at home volumes as they are ..but why not just wind down your tone control on the guitar to deal with it?
Live - with drums and bass kicking in - the amp sounds great in the mix to me?

Right! I don’t get it either. Each time I think I’ll sell my HRDx, I play it (live and loud) and think it’s bloody marvellous and I must be mad to part with it.

It just gives you more flexibility for dialling in the sweet spot at different volumes. I much prefer clean channels when they compress personally, not into the spiky thing so much

The tamer? I’ve got one! Wasn’t that I was referring to - just that TPS seem quite keen on fixing an issue that I’m not sure necessitates multiple videos and endless discussion.

But while I’m here - I think there is value in spiky, harsh, trebly guitar; particularly in punky, trashy sort of tunes. I like that lo-fi sound!

Danny1969 · August 2023

I knew something had happened yesterday when my phone was ker chinging every few minutes with orders. I was playing at Victorious festival though so couldn't really get online and see what caused the sudden rush of sales.

There's a couple of points they missed which I think makes it better value than the volume box in the loop. One is the signal never really leaves the amp so no noise is added and there's no additional sockets and extra jacks to be a potential point of failure.
The other point is you don't need to buy any extra cables ... you just plug it in the top of the amp. My knack, if i have one is thinking of the easiest and most obvious way to accomplish something in a manner that's also straightforward to build. My Motto is "inventing the obvious" and all the stuff I've developed over the years like the IEM cables, U-Mix box, Anti boost pedal and the bespoke designs I've done all come from that way of thinking. Use the least parts and the simplest circuit.

There's a loop return version I do available for people who want to run effects in the loop and also an adjustable version that fits a lot of amps from Marshall's to PRS's.

Paul_C · August 2023

theatreanchor said:

The tamer? I’ve got one! Wasn’t that I was referring to - just that TPS seem quite keen on fixing an issue that I’m not sure necessitates multiple videos and endless discussion.

As with all creators on YouTube etc. there are only so many things to talk about on any given subject, so there are bound to be times when you're scraping around a bit for "content", hence the "do we still like some stuff we said we liked ages ago?" etc.

roberty · August 2023

Paul_C said:

theatreanchor said:

The tamer? I’ve got one! Wasn’t that I was referring to - just that TPS seem quite keen on fixing an issue that I’m not sure necessitates multiple videos and endless discussion.

As with all creators on YouTube etc. there are only so many things to talk about on any given subject, so there are bound to be times when you're scraping around a bit for "content", hence the "do we still like some stuff we said we liked ages ago?" etc.

YouTube tends to push newer content to the front so there is incentive for creators to cover the same ground

@Danny1969 I wasn't aware this was your invention. Very cool

p90fool · August 2023

CaseOfAce said:

I'll admit I've only skimmed the video - but.. I must be missing something - I don't quite understand "the problem" they are trying to address.
The volume taper thing was fixed in the MKIVs - and that spiky, transient attack thing they are describing is... the sound of the clean channel on the amp?
For sure - you could describe it as "harsh" if using it at home volumes as they are ..but why not just wind down your tone control on the guitar to deal with it?
Live - with drums and bass kicking in - the amp sounds great in the mix to me?

I've had a MKIV and still have a MKII and the Lion Tamer allows me to drive the clean channel into compression at home volumes, it's not just about the volume pot taper.

At gigs I run the HRD at around 5 while pushed a touch with an overdrive pedal, and with the Lion Tamer I can set up all my pedals and relative levels at home without deafening everyone.

theatreanchor · August 2023

Having just watched the episode, I’m retracting what I said about Man and Dick. Was actually very useful and informative. Well done.

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