General modulation pedal....

Lewy · August 2023

If a person wanted to have access to the occasional bit of modulation (mostly trem, chorus, phaser and rotary) but didn't;t like any of them enough to warrant investing in decent examples of each, what's a good pedalboard friendly option....MD-200 looks like it would get it done...anything else around or below that price point with a similar range of fx? Thanks!

fretmeister · August 2023

TC Dreamscape, if you don’t need patch memories and stuff.

Lewy · August 2023

fretmeister said:

TC Dreamscape, if you don’t need patch memories and stuff.

Hmmm....think I'm probably going to want at least a few presets.....

EricTheWeary · August 2023

The ZCat Q Mod and Q Mod 2 always have nice things said about them. Simple controls.

There are some low budget multi mids from Mooer, Fiamma, Sonicake,etc.
Source Audio do separate chorus, flanger and phaser pedals but you can use the app to have the three types on one pedal.

Keeley Super Mod Workstation is versatile but a bit fiddly to use. However, they turn up relatively cheap used.

AntonHunter · August 2023

Zoom MS70 CDR

TimmyO · August 2023

Cheap: Flamma FS05

Not cheap: Alexander Wavelength, Walrus Audio M1

Not small: TC Plethora X3

guitargeek62 · August 2023

Digitech CF-7

dano · August 2023

Marshall do a small modulation pedal from the mid 2000s, the Regenator, with phase, vib, chorus, tremendous etc.

TimmyO · August 2023

A used H9 is more but powerful

thomasw88 · August 2023

Strymon mobius..

I’ve had boss md500; md200; wampler terraform, tc plethora, loads of multi effects, (stomp, hx effects, m5 zoom g3,g5 , fractal fx8, boss gt1000 and others. by a country mile I’ve preferred the mobius to all of them.

roberty · August 2023

Line6 M5

NUX Modcore

I had the MD-200 on my board but I have the M5 now. To my ears M5 is lo-fi and gritty in a pleasing way. Plus you get a load of mad filters, and all the other effect types

Teyeplayer · August 2023

Wampler Terraform is good to cover all the main ones.

Hellsbells87 · August 2023

Always loved the look of the gfi synesthesia, which hasn’t had a mention so far.

Secret_Sam · August 2023

Line 6 M9

The pitch shift and distortion are not up to the latest standards, but the delays, filters and modulations are great. The looper and tuner are good too. It's bigger than the Boss, but you get a very useful set of foot switches as a trade-off.

Fishboy7 · August 2023

To be honest I've not been able to get on with any digital modulation and always prefer a good analog pedal.

TheBigDipper · August 2023

The Boss modulation effects on a GT-1000 were nice to my ears, so the MD200 would (hopefully) be similar. But I dropped the GT-1000 and went pedals and board, so... After that, I didn't like everything on the Terraform. I'm happy with a Mobius.

Dodge · August 2023

AntonHunter said:

Zoom MS70 CDR

This, or the MS50G.

Lewy · August 2023

Thanks for the input all. I found a mobius for a good price so let's see how that goes!

TheBigDipper · August 2023

Lewy said:

Thanks for the input all. I found a mobius for a good price so let's see how that goes!

I do get some lovely sounds from mine and don't regret the large pedal size. Definitely usable without plugging into a computer. You can't get a Boss CE-2 chorus sound from it (not quite) but the ones available are very nice, as are the trems, flange and rotary sounds. The formant algorithm gives a nice autowah, too. Enjoy!

thomasw88 · August 2023

Lewy said:

Thanks for the input all. I found a mobius for a good price so let's see how that goes!

Good choice! Its a great pedal.

Lewy · August 2023

thomasw88 said:

Lewy said:

Thanks for the input all. I found a mobius for a good price so let's see how that goes!

Good choice! It’s a great pedal.

Thanks….beyond the sounds overall, I’m very much digging the pre/post functionality. Prefer phaser, rotary and vibe before drive, and chorus and trem after.

richman6100 · August 2023

The BOSS MD-500/MD-200 are very versatile and *can* produce some truly excellent sounds. The thing is, the default patches are generally a bit rubbish. I have the MD-500 and every patch I've ended up using is a tweaked (sometimes heavily tweaked) version of a standard patch. Don't think I would have used any of them in their default settings. God knows why BOSS doesn't do a better job of shipping these pedals with better standard patches, but I can understand why others have been put off when they first hear them. Most are over the top and a bit artificial sounding straight off the bat, but can be easily improved. Editing patches, especially in the desktop editor, is dead easy and I've been pleasantly surprised at what the MD-500 is capable of. Running two patches at once can be fun, but they need to be fairly subtle. The only downside is that it's pretty big. The MD-200 has a better footprint, but lacks the MD-500's larger screen.

The Mobius and Terraform are other good ones to consider. I suspect that both will sound better out of the box, but neither quite matches the versatility of the BOSS MDs. If you just want a plug and play solution, these two might be better options.

Creed_Clicks · August 2023

Marshall and EHX do small ones but no presets. The zoom or line6 m5 would be good shouts

roberty · August 2023

Can't really go wrong with the Mobius

Kebabkid · August 2023

AntonHunter said:

Zoom MS70 CDR

another plus one for this ^

Creed_Clicks · August 2023

Depends on your budget as well

BoltGuitarsUK · August 2023

Lewy said:

thomasw88 said:

Lewy said:

Thanks for the input all. I found a mobius for a good price so let's see how that goes!

Good choice! It’s a great pedal.

Thanks….beyond the sounds overall, I’m very much digging the pre/post functionality. Prefer phaser, rotary and vibe before drive, and chorus and trem after.

I like to use four cables with individual pedals for the same reason.

Drive into the pre-amp, out of the fx loop and into mod, back in for the power amp. Crisp.

Dominic · August 2023

For all this .....Terraform.......Mobius etc etc etc
I always come back to the conclusion that a Helix FX bought cheaply secondhand does it all and more and is so easy to use

TheBigDipper · August 2023

Dominic said:

For all this .....Terraform.......Mobius etc etc etc
I always come back to the conclusion that a Helix FX bought cheaply secondhand does it all and more and is so easy to use

I'm not looking to start a fight, and we've all got different ears, but I've owned all three plus a GT-1000 Core. Purely on size, the Terraform is smallest and the HX FX is the biggest. Purely for modulation sounds, I liked the HX FX and Terraform the least, the Boss had a great chorus and flanger but the Mobius sounded best to me. All of them are easy to drive if you're just looking for mod sounds.

jellybelly · August 2023

AntonHunter said:

Zoom MS70 CDR

Came here to say this (I use the 50g on my small board). Stick it in a tb loop and you've got a great workhorse, and it's got a good tuner too so eliminates another need.

Way better than it has any rite to be, given the fancy stuff available and mentioned on this thread - I tried sole of those too - it's not night and day and the little Zoom is often pleasing Lofi.

Dominic · August 2023

TheBigDipper said:

Dominic said:

For all this .....Terraform.......Mobius etc etc etc
I always come back to the conclusion that a Helix FX bought cheaply secondhand does it all and more and is so easy to use

I'm not looking to start a fight, and we've all got different ears, but I've owned all three plus a GT-1000 Core. Purely on size, the Terraform is smallest and the HX FX is the biggest. Purely for modulation sounds, I liked the HX FX and Terraform the least, the Boss had a great chorus and flanger but the Mobius sounded best to me. All of them are easy to drive if you're just looking for mod sounds.

No fight.......you are right.......I just find that the difference isn't huge in sound but you can get so much more in Helix FX
OK, mods are only 95% as good but you then get a Free Compressor, Drive,Boost,Distortion,Wah,Auto Wah,Reverb,Delay ,Panner, Stereo, routing etc etc etc

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