Amp modeller + FX with random patch generator?

goldtop · July 2023

I quite like 'happy accidents' in music, so I'm wondering if any of the amp modellers have built-in random patch generators?

(The sort of thing you get in some synths, where you press a button and the synth creates something that you'd probably not make yourself. The results are always hit-n-miss, but sometimes tameable into something useful.)

Ideas?

Jonathanthomas83 · July 2023

More than happy to mess up a few of your painstakingly created patches for you. £10 per patch.

relic245 · July 2023

What a great idea.

Do you have a mfx at the moment? If so maybe put it in as a feature request.

Thinking of something like hx edit software for the helix family, it can't be that hard to build in.

fretmeister · July 2023

Most of the patches on Line 6's own Customtone website are definitely accidents.
Just not happy ones.

goldtop · July 2023

relic245 said:

What a great idea.

Do you have a mfx at the moment? If so maybe put it in as a feature request.

Thinking of something like hx edit software for the helix family, it can't be that hard to build in.

I'd not thought of that. Yes, I suppose it would be trivial for an engineer to do in the editor.

That said, I tend not to use them. The one for the THR that I have isn't that deep anyway, like the THR itself. So ideally it's be a buton or [Shift]+button on the unit itself.

RichAC · July 2023

I feel like this is more likely to be a feature in software such as Guitar Rig or Amplitube than in hardware (I’ve got a vague nagging feeling that I’ve seen it before somewhere, but I might be thinking of a soft synth).

goldtop · July 2023

Yes, quite easy to find in synths - such as the (hardware) Waldorf Blofeld. With that, there's a limited utility, because a truly random synth patch will often be completely silent or a cacophony that you can't use for harmony. IIRC, a coupe of synths allow you to set limits to avoid those.

With a guitar amp modeller and FX, a randomizer would also need some ground rules, such as sections you can turn off, so that not everything has modulation/etc. Perhaps some probability rules.

This is beginning to sound more like an editor feature.

Jonathangus · July 2023

Random settings? Get a cat.

Sassafras · July 2023

Wear a blindfold.

goldtop · July 2023

Hmmm... a blind cat for extra randoms...

UnclePsychosis · July 2023

If you could be arsed, I bet it would be relatively easy to write a piece of software that randomised the settings via MIDI.

goldtop · July 2023

True. Well, beyond my pay-grade, but it's not rocket science.

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