Listening Party #20 / Soundgarden - Badmotorfinger // Weds 12th April, 8pm

MagicPigDetective · April 2023

Love the ending to this, and the fade out/it.

Ok after this have a short break, come back at 8.35 for Searching With My Good Eye Closed

markv · April 2023

MagicPigDetective said:

I wonder if it's a bit much to take in on a first ever listen?

Yeah this isn't an immediate grabber on first listen for me! But then some of my favourite albums took several listens (Steely Dan's 70s albums, for example)

"Somewhere" is working a bit better for me, there's a bit more to grab onto melody wise, I think.

MagicPigDetective · April 2023

Ok, back in 5

Neilybob · April 2023

markv said:

MagicPigDetective said:

I wonder if it's a bit much to take in on a first ever listen?

Yeah this isn't an immediate grabber on first listen for me! But then some of my favourite albums took several listens (Steely Dan's 70s albums, for example)

"Somewhere" is working a bit better for me, there's a bit more to grab onto melody wise, I think.

Worth checking SG Superunknown Album then. Still heavy but a bit more to grab onto.

MagicPigDetective · April 2023

Ok, let's go again

7. Searching with my good eye closed.

I used to consider this a bit of an album filler, but it has grown on my over the years.
I think it was the opening song when I saw them play in Hyde Park 2012.

Btw I saw them play 4 times. Reading festival twice, Wolverhampton Civic Hall in 96 and Hyde Park 2012 (which was incredible)

MagicPigDetective · April 2023

Neilybob said:

markv said:

MagicPigDetective said:

I wonder if it's a bit much to take in on a first ever listen?

Yeah this isn't an immediate grabber on first listen for me! But then some of my favourite albums took several listens (Steely Dan's 70s albums, for example)

"Somewhere" is working a bit better for me, there's a bit more to grab onto melody wise, I think.

Worth checking SG Superunknown Album then. Still heavy but a bit more to grab onto.

Yes, Superunkown is more varied, perhaps easier to get into, a better gateway.

I can't remember now, it probably took me a few listens to get into BMF when I was 16

Jonathangus · April 2023

I like Down on the Upside, too.

MagicPigDetective · April 2023

8. Room a Thousand Years Wide. A Kim Thayil song in dropped D... really cool riff

Neilybob · April 2023

Searching with my good eye closed really builds! Love it.

markv · April 2023

Liking these two songs ("Searching ..." and "Room ...") a lot more than the first side so far. Really intense

MagicPigDetective · April 2023

This and Drawing Flies have saxophone.... in more of a free jazz style rather than Baker Street!

MagicPigDetective · April 2023

9. Mind Riot.

The closest it gets to a ballad. Tuning: EEEEEE
Partly about Andy Wood, his housemate who died of an OD.. he was the singer of Mother Love Bone, the proto Pearl Jam group.
This may be my fave song on the album

Candle's burning yesterday
Somebody's best friend died

Neilybob · April 2023

Saxophone is always interesting on a grunge record. Can't say I know another grunge tune with saxophone on it.

MagicPigDetective · April 2023

A lot of Cornell's lyrics were about death......

MagicPigDetective · April 2023

10. Drawing Flies. A rarity, a Soundgarden song in standard tuning!

markv · April 2023

Chris Cornell's lower register reminds me of Myles Kennedy and some of the feel of some of the songs remind me of Alter Bridge. Obviously this is from well before Alter Bridge (and Tremonti is a different kind of guitarist) but is Soundgarden a known influence on them?

MagicPigDetective · April 2023

markv said:

Chris Cornell's lower register reminds me of Myles Kennedy and some of the feel of some of the songs remind me of Alter Bridge. Obviously this is from well before Alter Bridge (and Tremonti is a different kind of guitarist) but is Soundgarden a known influence on them?

Don't know, but Soundgarden (and Alice in Chains) are a huge influence on many metal bands and musicians, so woulnt be surprised

MagicPigDetective · April 2023

11. Holy Water. Dropped B again, a weird time signature (another Soundgarden thing)

MagicPigDetective · April 2023

12. New Damage. Total Sabbath and Kim get's to go crazy with his wah. There's a version somewhere with Brian May playing lead! I love Kim's lead style, it's not conventional/shred

Neilybob · April 2023

MagicPigDetective said:

12. New Damage. Total Sabbath and Kim get's to go crazy with his wah. There's a version somewhere with Brian May playing lead! I love Kim's lead style, it's not conventional/shred

Totally agree that Kim is unconventional and that's what makes him so great.

MagicPigDetective · April 2023

Ok, interesting experience... some reflection, I can see it might be a bit relentless on first listen! It might take a few listens to get into. Perhaps Superunknown or Down on the Upside would have been a better intro for the uninitiated... they're more varied, with Zeppelin and Beatles influences, give them a listen... or we can do a Superunkown listening party in the future

TTony · April 2023

MagicPigDetective said:

I can see it might be a bit relentless on first listen! It might take a few listens to get into.

It's not top of my list to listen again though - not all at once anyways!

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But it's been a new experience, which is what this is all about

Neilybob · April 2023

Brilliant choice @MagicPigDetective ;

Takes me back to my teens. Thank you

MagicPigDetective · April 2023

Neilybob said:

Saxophone is always interesting on a grunge record. Can't say I know another grunge tune with saxophone on it.

Have your heard Morphine? Bass, sax and guitar, and pretty grungey, if not grunge

markv · April 2023

Well thanks for choosing that @MagicPigDetective, definitely a new album (and artist) for me.

I liked "Searching with my Good Eye Closed" and "Room a Thousand Years Wide" best so far. It's quite full on, and I've been doing a lot of driving today and I'm tired so possibly wasn't the most receptive I could be.

I'll have a bash at Superunknown, which I am slightly ashamed to reveal that I actually own (I don't remember buying it, I've just found it) but haven't listened to ... !

MagicPigDetective · April 2023

Anyway, thanks all for listening. Does anyone fancy doing one next week?

MagicPigDetective · April 2023

It must have taken me a while to get into when I first heard it.. of course back in those days you'd listen to a tape over and over..till you did get it!

Neilybob · April 2023

MagicPigDetective said:

Neilybob said:

Saxophone is always interesting on a grunge record. Can't say I know another grunge tune with saxophone on it.

Have your heard Morphine? Bass, sax and guitar, and pretty grungey, if not grunge

No but will check it out. Thanks

TTony · April 2023

MagicPigDetective said:

Anyway, thanks all for listening. Does anyone fancy doing one next week?

Whoever does whatever, I'll have to give it a miss next week.

Jonathangus · April 2023

Cheers, @MagicPigDetective ! As you say, maybe not the easiest introduction to Soundgarden, but it's good to challenge yourself once in a while.

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