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Mellish · June 2022

@Dave_Mc ; - rather than go for less expensive because you're not sure a parlour would suit, I'd say go and try as many as you can *then* make up your mind how much you want to spend

Tannin · June 2022

BillDL said:

On most steel strung acoustics the bridge pins are in a straight line, which means that the bass strings are at an acute angle up over the saddle, but the treble strings are at a much shallower angle because the saddle is further away from the bridge pins on that side.

I have 7 guitars made by four different builders on two different continents. Pretty fair randomish sample. Every one of the 7 has angled bridge pin holes.

Dave_Mc · June 2022

Mellish said:

@Dave_Mc ; - rather than go for less expensive because you're not sure a parlour would suit, I'd say go and try as many as you can *then* make up your mind how much you want to spend

Thanks. Problem as usual is Northern Ireland... very little stuff around here to try out of the ordinary (which I've probably already tried!). I could probably get the Harley Benton, or even the Recording King, for less than a trip to England. Considering I could just send them back if I don't like them and pay return postage, far less than a trip to England...

drofluf · June 2022

bertie said:

how do you find the tone of the walnut ? say in comparison to anything else you have ie mahog/rwood etc

Its a wood that has always aesthetically intrigued me, on its own like yours or mixed with others (cherry for instance) but the lack of "experience" in hearing/trying one

@bertie a quick A-B test of the 2 of them excuse the poor quality and playing

VimFuego · June 2022

without knowing which is which, the 1st sounded darker to me, the 2nd sounded brighter and had more clarity. Both sounded really nice, but I think I prefer the 2nd slightly.

bertie · June 2022

drofluf said:

bertie said:

how do you find the tone of the walnut ? say in comparison to anything else you have ie mahog/rwood etc

Its a wood that has always aesthetically intrigued me, on its own like yours or mixed with others (cherry for instance) but the lack of "experience" in hearing/trying one

@bertie a quick A-B test of the 2 of them excuse the poor quality and playing

thanks - as with @VimFuego not knowing which was which - for me the first had more bass, I wouldnt say darker but fuller the second more clear defined highs , tough but I think prefer the first................................................

that was listening on a plantronics "skype headset" tho !!

drofluf · June 2022

I deliberately didn't say which was which as I didn't want any preconceived ideas to intervene

Thought I'd leave it out a while but will reveal later.

Soupman · June 2022

Listened through a decent set of 'phones to this a couple of times. They're close, but the second sample edges it for me - it has a lovely balanced resonant tonal quality & is louder ; the first sample I thought slightly more bass heavy.
They both sound good, the fact I had to listen a few times shows how close they are.
I like the blind test idea - but later you will have to enlighten us!

VimFuego · June 2022

drofluf said:

I deliberately didn't say which was which as I didn't want any preconceived ideas to intervene Thought I'd leave it out a while but will reveal later.

you rotten tease you.

Mellish · June 2022

Vim there nailed how I heard it. I'd have to go with the second one, too.

Nice example of fingerstyle btw

Kalimna · June 2022

Both sound very nice, not sure one is 'better' than the other. Second has more 'crispness' to my ears. First, more 'rounded'.

bencowling81 · June 2022

Oh man I love the binding and rosette. Congrats!

Tannin · June 2022

I deliberately didn't read anything to give me hints or see what other people thought. First impressions often change, but FWIW my first impression was clear: the second sample was substantially richer and significantly more dynamic. I'm listening on very crappy $10 speakers, nevertheless, I thought the difference clear. I would rather play the second guitar - indeed I'd love to play it - but I do wonder if I wouldn't sound better on the first one - very responsive guitars are quite challenging to play where a more naturally compressed-sounding instrument can flatter a not-so-great player like me.

Nice playing, and an interesting choice of material.

(Now I'm going to hit "post comment" and read the other comments.)

drofluf · June 2022

Mellish said:

Vim there nailed how I heard it. I'd have to go with the second one, too.

Nice example of fingerstyle btw

Thanks

drofluf · June 2022

OK, fanfare time. The answer to today's edition of "guess that guitar" is;

First one was the Martin (all mahogany) the second the Brook (Walnut back & sides, spruce top)

VimFuego · June 2022

woot (and dammit, now I really want a Brook).

drofluf · June 2022

VimFuego said:

woot (and dammit, now I really want a Brook).

Sorry!

bertie · June 2022

drofluf said:

OK, fanfare time. The answer to today's edition of "guess that guitar" is;

First one was the Martin (all mahogany) the second the Brook (Walnut back & sides, spruce top)

hmm. a well, perhaps I should stick to Spruce/Rwood................

VimFuego · June 2022

It's odd, if I was gonna get a custom made or luthier made guitar like a Brook, I think I'd want a small bodied 12 fretter, but if I was to get a Brook specifically I'm torn between something like the Clyst and a Torridge, reason being I lived about 1/2 mile from the River Torridge, and I feel honour bound to get that model. I think (well, hope anyways) that common sense woul overwhelm nostalgia and I'd get a clyst.

bertie · June 2022

VimFuego said:

It's odd, if I was gonna get a custom made or luthier made guitar like a Brook, I think I'd want a small bodied 12 fretter, but if I was to get a Brook specifically I'm torn between something like the Clyst and a Torridge, reason being I lived about 1/2 mile from the River Torridge, and I feel honour bound to get that model. I think (well, hope anyways) that common sense woul overwhelm nostalgia and I'd get a clyst.

based on that - it'd obviously be the Okement - but big jumbos aint for me, I played one once up at Intersound, the "big" sound knocked over 2 people browsing in the shop, or a Lyn (mrs Bert) ................. or as I spent a lot of my childhood about a mile from Easterbrook............Id have to have one of each

VimFuego · June 2022

bertie said:

VimFuego said:

It's odd, if I was gonna get a custom made or luthier made guitar like a Brook, I think I'd want a small bodied 12 fretter, but if I was to get a Brook specifically I'm torn between something like the Clyst and a Torridge, reason being I lived about 1/2 mile from the River Torridge, and I feel honour bound to get that model. I think (well, hope anyways) that common sense woul overwhelm nostalgia and I'd get a clyst.

based on that - it'd obviously be the Okement - but big jumbos aint for me, I played one once up at Intersound, the "big" sound knocked over 2 people browsing in the shop, or a Lyn (mrs Bert) ................. or as I spent a lot of my childhood about a mile from Easterbrook............Id have to have one of each

heh, I knew a couple of guys who were well on their way to having the full set of rivers.

Tannin · June 2022

Hmm Tamar or Jordan for me. Hard to pick between those two. I don't have a small jumbo and that's a type of guitar I really like. Cedar and walnut perhaps?

Dave_Mc · June 2022

Mellish said:

Vim there nailed how I heard it.

Same here (on cheapo laptop speakers). Not sure which I prefer, though, I liked them both.

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