Surely the Boss of Bass?

Nibulniblin · May 2022

My first visit here - I'm a Strat/Tele player - but happened upon this piece of unbelievable musicianship and invention which may not have reached this forum. yet. Gasp.

DrCornelius · May 2022

The guy is unbelievable. My son plays bass and showed me a couple of his sillier jokey slap videos and I dismissed him a bit as another internet celebrity. Since then I’ve luckily seen a few others where he is actually playing and he is soooo musical . I’m guessing he is in high demand for sessions and not just you tubing ?

Musicwolf · May 2022

Normally I would say that Bass Players who slap should themselves be slapped, however, this clever little bastard actually sounds good. Just a pity that he's unacceptably Ginger.

stickyfiddle · May 2022

He's really good, obviously. But I couldn't listen to it for more than a couple of minutes unless it was in a mid-90s racing game.

But honestly OP doesn't include McCartner, Dunn, Jameson so it's moot.

fretmeister · May 2022

Charles is awesome. Genuinely up there with Victah.

His arrangements are very clever. Never loses sight of the tune itself. I hope he gets all the sessions work he can cope with.

guitarfishbay · May 2022

Awesome musician. Capable of writing nice melodies and arrangements and playing seemingly anything on bass

CaseOfAce · May 2022

Crazily skillful.
BUT...
I can't count the amount of lead bass players I've encountered over the years and resultant band drama.

Too loud, toppy bass trampling all over the guitar frequencies, over-playing, no pocket, slap at every available opportunity
(mercifully Billy Sheehan tapping less so...).

There are times I truly wish Flea had never picked up the instrument and put a sock on his willy.

fretmeister · May 2022

Billy Sheehan wannabes never seem to understand that 99% of his work is solid traditional bass playing.

He does a massive amount of session work in a wide range of genres because he’s very good at that.

axisus · May 2022

Amazing player. I've posted a few threads about him in the past.

LastMantra · May 2022

stratman3142 · May 2022

Yes an amazing player. I've followed his channel for quite a while now, after finding out about him on this forum.

dazzajl · May 2022

The real trouble with bass players like this is that many many guitarists don't like bass players that are more talented and more musical than they* are

*we

RocknRollDave · May 2022

Very talented, and a very musical piece. That said, I can't help but think that this would sound better if it featured a whole load of other instruments instead of everything being on bass. I can hear a soul singer really knocking the melody out of the park, I can hear keyboard stabs, bit of funk guitar on there. No need for a "bass only" composition to exist in the world anywhere, ever, IMHO!

ToneControl · May 2022

I saw some of his stuff last year, nice bloke and very impressive.
I suppose the flashier stuff is the equivalent of many guitar solos, i.e. impressive but not something most people would like to hear very often during a song

Funkfingers · May 2022

Jamaaladeen Tacuma is the Boss Of The Bass. Gramavision, 1991.

roberty · May 2022

dazzajl said:

The real trouble with bass players like this is that many many guitarists don't like bass players that are more talented and more musical than they* are

*we

If it was down to individual musicians you'd have a metal guitarist, a funk bass player and a jazz drummer all playing over each other

roberty · May 2022

And some singer doing acrobatic runs over the whole thing

Philly_Q · May 2022

I don't know much about bass but I quite often watch Charles Berthoud's channel. His playing's mindboggling but somehow if seems fun (and musical), nit just showing off for the sake of it.

Just in case anyone hasn't seen his channel, Davie504's another great YouTube bass player (with an enormous number of subscribers).

dazzajl · May 2022

roberty said:

dazzajl said:

The real trouble with bass players like this is that many many guitarists don't like bass players that are more talented and more musical than they* are

*we

If it was down to individual musicians you'd have a metal guitarist, a funk bass player and a jazz drummer all playing over each other

I was that bass player

axisus · May 2022

Philly_Q said:

I don't know much about bass but I quite often watch Charles Berthoud's channel. His playing's mindboggling but somehow if seems fun (and musical), nit just showing off for the sake of it.

Just in case anyone hasn't seen his channel, Davie504's another great YouTube bass player (with an enormous number of subscribers).

I have to admit that I find Davie504 a bit too arrogant and annoying, although he's clearly very good. Charles is just a really nice guy.

LuttiS · May 2022

Those guys are good.. but there is only one funk daddy.

ToneControl · May 2022

Here's where he got the funk

p90fool · May 2022

RocknRollDave said:

Very talented, and a very musical piece. That said, I can't help but think that this would sound better if it featured a whole load of other instruments instead of everything being on bass. I can hear a soul singer really knocking the melody out of the park, I can hear keyboard stabs, bit of funk guitar on there. No need for a "bass only" composition to exist in the world anywhere, ever, IMHO!

It's not a record, it's a demo piece.

I think it's pretty obvious from his timing, sense of melody and his taste that he'd do a perfectly appropriate and classy job in a regular band context.

fretmeister · May 2022

RocknRollDave said:

Very talented, and a very musical piece. That said, I can't help but think that this would sound better if it featured a whole load of other instruments instead of everything being on bass. I can hear a soul singer really knocking the melody out of the park, I can hear keyboard stabs, bit of funk guitar on there. No need for a "bass only" composition to exist in the world anywhere, ever, IMHO!

Guitar only compositions are equally dull.

Come to think of it, unless the composition is JS Bach level, almost all single instrument pieces other than for piano are not as much fun as a bigger arrangement.

ToneControl · May 2022

fretmeister said:

RocknRollDave said:

Very talented, and a very musical piece. That said, I can't help but think that this would sound better if it featured a whole load of other instruments instead of everything being on bass. I can hear a soul singer really knocking the melody out of the park, I can hear keyboard stabs, bit of funk guitar on there. No need for a "bass only" composition to exist in the world anywhere, ever, IMHO!

Guitar only compositions are equally dull.

Come to think of it, unless the composition is JS Bach level, almost all single instrument pieces other than for piano are not as much fun as a bigger arrangement.

I used to buy and listen to all of Martin Taylor's CDs
Eventually I started to dislike the fast ones where he simultaneously plays the bass parts as well as the melody and chords - I'd rather have an actual bass player
Like this one

I still like the Pat Metheny "One quiet night" stuff though

fretmeister · May 2022

ToneControl said:

fretmeister said:

RocknRollDave said:

Very talented, and a very musical piece. That said, I can't help but think that this would sound better if it featured a whole load of other instruments instead of everything being on bass. I can hear a soul singer really knocking the melody out of the park, I can hear keyboard stabs, bit of funk guitar on there. No need for a "bass only" composition to exist in the world anywhere, ever, IMHO!

Guitar only compositions are equally dull.

Come to think of it, unless the composition is JS Bach level, almost all single instrument pieces other than for piano are not as much fun as a bigger arrangement.

I used to buy and listen to all of Martin Taylor's CDs
Eventually I started to dislike the fast ones where he simultaneously plays the bass parts as well as the melody and chords - I'd rather have an actual bass player
Like this one

I still like the Pat Metheny "One quiet night" stuff though

As technically impressive as that is, and Tommy Emmanuel etc I find it dull as ditchwater.
I remember someone describing as watching someone doing high level maths. It is really impressive, but it's also devoid of fun.

I love watching musicians play together, reacting to each other.

But I do like singers when they are backed by only 1 instrument. Probably because it's 2 instruments really and there is interplay between them. Even if it is a solo performer the way the player approaches the voice and the other is different.

PolarityMan · June 2022

A bit off topic but I don't monitor the bass section that much but has there already been a davie504 thread?

mart · June 2022

fretmeister said:

ToneControl said:
...
I used to buy and listen to all of Martin Taylor's CDs
....
As technically impressive as that is, and Tommy Emmanuel etc I find it dull as ditchwater.
I remember someone describing as watching someone doing high level maths. ....

That's the other Martin Taylor.

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