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Taylor Big Baby too bright?

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  • MellishMellish Frets: 945
    @spev11 ; - oh it's easy to get drawn in, ordering and ordering. Strings, bridge pins, a heap of picks the height of Everest... :) 
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  • spev11spev11 Frets: 214
    Mellish said:
    @spev11 ; - oh it's easy to get drawn in, ordering and ordering. Strings, bridge pins, a heap of picks the height of Everest... :) 
    nothing new for me  =) I went through it with amps for the electric. The eternal search, my wife looks at me with pity most of the time
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 69426
    To cut a long story short... (all these in my opinion/experience)

    Taylors are just bright, that's their sound - compared to something like a Martin or Gibson.

    Don't bother changing bridge pins, it will make no detectable difference. (Other than brass, which will increase brightness or at least upper mids.)

    String gauges don't really change the base tone, more the 'thickness' of the sound.

    Elixirs might help a bit, but I don't really think they're less bright than other strings, just a bit lifeless. I don't like them personally.

    Monels might be worth a try.

    *Old* strings will help - that's the exact opposite of what Elixirs do. Get some 80/20 bronzes and leave them on past the normal 'good' period, as Tannin said - they'll mellow out nicely and then last ages. At least twice, I've bought a guitar I loved the mellow sound of, then struggled to ever get that sound back once I'd replaced the dead old strings with new ones...

    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski

    "Just because I don't care, doesn't mean I don't understand." - Homer Simpson

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  • spev11spev11 Frets: 214
    I quite like the tone of the polywebs to be fair but they do feel a bit funny under the fingers (more so than the nanowebs if my memory serves). I think there's a degree of "getting over myself" to be had here as well.

     I may try some Monels and leave them on. I also have a super budget Hudson bowlback with some unknown strings that havent been changed in 8 years at work (cost £59 as it had a dented headstock), that sounds quite good all things considered.

    I'll keep playing it for a while and if after a month or two i'm still not enjoying it then it'll go up for sale and i'll see what I can find to replace it (it doesn't help visiting my brother and playing his APX600 which is really quite good) 

    thank you all for your advice, once again the fretboard serves as a font of wisdom
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  • spev11spev11 Frets: 214
    Decided the polywebs were not for me, actually seemed noisier than the earthwounds, and yes a little dead sounding. So I fitted some Martin Retro Monels 12-54 and so far they are much better, no noisier than the polywebs (possibly quieter even). And a bit less treble so I'm a happy Taylor owner again.
    ta
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  • bertiebertie Frets: 12145
    Mellish said:
    Silk & Steel? :) 
    was that the David McCallum/Jo Lumley low budget sequel 
    just because you don't, doesn't mean you can't
     just because you do, doesn't mean you should.
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  • spev11spev11 Frets: 214
    bertie said:
    Mellish said:
    Silk & Steel? :) 
    was that the David McCallum/Jo Lumley low budget sequel 
    nah its a Five Star album innit?
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  • MellishMellish Frets: 945
    @spev11 ; - some strings for you to try: D'Addario EJ16, DR Sunbeams DR Rare, DR Veritas, Pyramid Western Folk, La Bella... 

    Elixir Polyweb have a thicker coating than Nanoweb, which may explain your "dead" comment :) 
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  • spev11spev11 Frets: 214
    Could be, I was really expecting them to be quieter though
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  • MellishMellish Frets: 945
    @spev11 ; - oh I forgot, you're after quieter strings. Sorry mate :) 
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  • MellishMellish Frets: 945
    edited May 2022
    @bertie ; - Silk and Steel were used by Donovan on Colours, Catch The Wind etc. They give a mellow, folky tone . 

    Back then you couldn't get phosphor bronze. They wouldn't be around until another ten years or so. 


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  • bertiebertie Frets: 12145
    Mellish said:
    @bertie ; - Silk and Steel were used by Donovan on Colours, Catch The Wind etc. They give a mellow, folky tone . 



    yes I know  -  it was a joke !!! 
    just because you don't, doesn't mean you can't
     just because you do, doesn't mean you should.
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  • MellishMellish Frets: 945
    Which I got :) 
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  • ToneControlToneControl Frets: 11438
    Which Elixirs did you try?
    80/20s are very bright
    PB nano web is normal, 
    PB polyweb is less bright
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  • MellishMellish Frets: 945
    @bertie '; - crappy series, though, cringe worthy really :) 
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  • spev11spev11 Frets: 214
    80/20 ploywebs as , according to elixir they are supposed to be “warm, fast and smooth” seemingly none of those words were applicable 
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  • bertiebertie Frets: 12145
    spev11 said:
    80/20 ploywebs as , according to elixir they are supposed to be “warm, fast and smooth” seemingly none of those words were applicable 
    well they're duller, and greasier than nanowebs  thats for sure
    just because you don't, doesn't mean you can't
     just because you do, doesn't mean you should.
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  • MellishMellish Frets: 945
    Extra coating. Normally good longevity but the tone suffers :) 
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  • spev11spev11 Frets: 214
    i'd have maybe dealt with the tone but the coating made the most horrible noise, nothing like the "almost" additive noise of fingers on strings that you get playing acoustic, I had to fling my had away from the fretboard dramatically to avoid noise, the wife though I was having spasms  :#
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  • MellishMellish Frets: 945
    It's times like this that Steve's wisdom should be tapped into. I mean, I don't know the bloke but @bertie there is an acquaintance :) 
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  • bertiebertie Frets: 12145
    Ive said before,  polywebs are like extra lube'd  condoms for strings  and to me, quite dull - nano's are much less noticeable - but zingier, which for me is a good thing :) 
    just because you don't, doesn't mean you can't
     just because you do, doesn't mean you should.
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  • Creed_ClicksCreed_Clicks Frets: 1255
    @thecolourbox nice cover, and the BBT sounds ok to me on regular apple headphones.
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  • MellishMellish Frets: 945
    @bertie ; - if you like zingy (and if they're still made), try those Martins in the red box. They were zing city.

    They quickly dulled, though. Not sure if 80/20 or PB :) 
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  • bertiebertie Frets: 12145
    Im very content with nano's    :)   


    just because you don't, doesn't mean you can't
     just because you do, doesn't mean you should.
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  • MellishMellish Frets: 945
    ^^^ no worries ;) 
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  • bertiebertie Frets: 12145
    notice I said nano's  not nanDos...................  bloody horse shit........... plus theyd' make a hell of a mess of the fretboard
    just because you don't, doesn't mean you can't
     just because you do, doesn't mean you should.
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