Why Not as Much Traffic in Acoustic Section?

VimFuego · February 2022

beardy folky here (and I also have a pair of sandals somewhere!), so yeah, I'm mostly an acoustic player (though nowadays most of my playing is on mandolin).

sev112 · February 2022

I too get frustrated that no-one posts in the “Lyres of Ur” sub-forum

(yes that was a wiki search)

guitarjack66 · February 2022

hollywoodrox said:

guitarjack66 said:

The weird thing is that before I started learning I thought jumping straight onto electric was a bit of a 'cheat' rather than learning on acoustic and transferring those skills to the 'easier' electric guitar. I still sort of think that to be honest.

I’d disagree with that , the extra muting required when playing at high gain can call for a whole different way of playing to stop various strings ringing out when they are not required ,plus every fluff or indiscriminate accidental hand movement is amplified a thousand times louder

You are more than welcome to disagree with me on this,it's simply an opinion and no more. I'm also happy to see so much involvement on a debate here in the acoustic section. It makes a pleasant change.

Just to go back to my original point,it's also much easier to have a nice chat like this about an acoustic because it's very basic in it's parts and construction. It takes fantastic skills to make a good one but anybody can chip into an acoustic discussion as the terminology is much more fundamental. No worrying about 'gain' 'humbuckers' 'hair of the dog fuzz pedals' and such. And may I say that beardie folks with sandals and girlies wanting to hug trees are very welcome to contribute also. Acoustic guitar is very modern and inclusive to all.

bertie · February 2022

guitarjack66 said:

hollywoodrox said:

guitarjack66 said:

The weird thing is that before I started learning I thought jumping straight onto electric was a bit of a 'cheat' rather than learning on acoustic and transferring those skills to the 'easier' electric guitar. I still sort of think that to be honest.

I’d disagree with that , the extra muting required when playing at high gain can call for a whole different way of playing to stop various strings ringing out when they are not required ,plus every fluff or indiscriminate accidental hand movement is amplified a thousand times louder

You are more than welcome to disagree with me on this,it's simply an opinion and no more. I'm also happy to see so much involvement on a debate here in the acoustic section. It makes a pleasant change.

Just to go back to my original point,it's also much easier to have a nice chat like this about an acoustic because it's very basic in it's parts and construction. It takes fantastic skills to make a good one but anybody can chip into an acoustic discussion as the terminology is much more fundamental. No worrying about 'gain' 'humbuckers' 'hair of the dog fuzz pedals' and such. And may I say that beardie folks with sandals and girlies wanting to hug trees are very welcome to contribute also. Acoustic guitar is very modern and inclusive to all.

and the tone "is" in the wood, not the pickups

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sev112 · February 2022

guitarjack66 ….

Just to go back to my original point,it's also much easier to have a nice chat like this about an acoustic because it's very basic in it's parts and construction. It takes fantastic skills to make a good one but anybody can chip into an acoustic discussion as the terminology is much more fundamental.

Wondered what your views are on X or C bracing ?

VimFuego · February 2022

bertie said:

guitarjack66 said:

hollywoodrox said:

guitarjack66 said:

The weird thing is that before I started learning I thought jumping straight onto electric was a bit of a 'cheat' rather than learning on acoustic and transferring those skills to the 'easier' electric guitar. I still sort of think that to be honest.

I’d disagree with that , the extra muting required when playing at high gain can call for a whole different way of playing to stop various strings ringing out when they are not required ,plus every fluff or indiscriminate accidental hand movement is amplified a thousand times louder

You are more than welcome to disagree with me on this,it's simply an opinion and no more. I'm also happy to see so much involvement on a debate here in the acoustic section. It makes a pleasant change.

Just to go back to my original point,it's also much easier to have a nice chat like this about an acoustic because it's very basic in it's parts and construction. It takes fantastic skills to make a good one but anybody can chip into an acoustic discussion as the terminology is much more fundamental. No worrying about 'gain' 'humbuckers' 'hair of the dog fuzz pedals' and such. And may I say that beardie folks with sandals and girlies wanting to hug trees are very welcome to contribute also. Acoustic guitar is very modern and inclusive to all.

and the tone "is" in the wood, not the pickups -

heheheheheheh, wood. chortle.

bertie · February 2022

VimFuego said:

heheheheheheh, wood. chortle.

when it comes to soundboards, a good stiff one is best

guitarjack66 · February 2022

bertie said:

VimFuego said:

heheheheheheh, wood. chortle.

when it comes to soundboards, a good stiff one is best

Carry on acoustic.

Snags · February 2022

Let's not forget that the second busiest topic is "Off Topic" ... people aren't necessarily here for the hunting

CavemanGrogg · February 2022

VimFuego said:

beardy folky here (and I also have a pair of sandals somewhere!), so yeah, I'm mostly an acoustic player (though nowadays most of my playing is on mandolin).

But are they cork soled Birkenstocks? And more importantly do you war them with knee high white socks, a la ''Englishman on holiday'' style, bonus points for having a handkerchief on your head for protection from the sun?

Tannin · February 2022

No no no. That's archtop players.

crunchman · February 2022

Part of it is people posting acoustic threads in the Guitar section. If you look, you will find a number of acoustic related threads in the Guitar section.

TTony · February 2022

CavemanGrogg said:

bonus points for having a handkerchief on your head for protection from the sun?

handkerchiefs don't give the right protection anymore.

I use a special foil lining inside my balaclava.

bertie · February 2022

here's an out there idea - why don't we ask Lee to rename the Guitar section to ........................."Electric Guitar" ?

I know, I know - call it a gift

TTony · February 2022

bertie said:

here's an out there idea - why don't we ask Lee to rename the Guitar section to ........................."Electric Guitar" ?

And Acoustics could be renamed to ....

"stringed instruments (apart from banjos) which don't need an amplifier to be heard and which aren't played exclusively by beardie (m/f) folkies wearing sandals"

Snags · February 2022

We could always just not particularly care. It's not a competition.

bertie · February 2022

TTony said:

bertie said:

here's an out there idea - why don't we ask Lee to rename the Guitar section to ........................."Electric Guitar" ?

And Acoustics could be renamed to ....

"stringed instruments (apart from banjos) which don't need an amplifier to be heard and which aren't played exclusively by beardie (m/f) folkies wearing sandals"

why not banjo's ? nuke the uke is what I say

Lewy · February 2022

I like the fact that there's less traffic. None of the members past and present who've had me reaching for the Ignore button ever come here

It's like a little island of adulthood.

bertie · February 2022

Lewy said:

It's like a little island of adulthood.

you sure ?

TheOtherDennis · February 2022

guitarjack66 said:

bertie said:

VimFuego said:

heheheheheheh, wood. chortle.

when it comes to soundboards, a good stiff one is best

Carry on acoustic.

Carry On Plucking

CavemanGrogg · February 2022

TTony said:

bertie said:

here's an out there idea - why don't we ask Lee to rename the Guitar section to ........................."Electric Guitar" ?

And Acoustics could be renamed to ....

"stringed instruments (apart from banjos) which don't need an amplifier to be heard and which aren't played exclusively by beardie (m/f) folkies wearing sandals"

How about renaming the acoustic section, ''The sandals with socks crowd''?

And everybody knows lining your hat or handkerchief with tin foil alone is useless, tin foil only stops them from reading your mind and controlling you via mind control. You need to sandwich the tin foil between layers of graphene for proper protection from both the sun and them.

randella · March 2022

bertie said:

guitarjack66 said:

The weird thing is that before I started learning I thought jumping straight onto electric was a bit of a 'cheat' rather than learning on acoustic and transferring those skills to the 'easier' electric guitar. I still sort of think that to be honest.

well that's it I think back "in the day" when us oldies learnt "good" beginner electrics were harder to come by and it was almost "the done thing" to learn on an acoustic..............cos they were just so much more readily available - thats a massive generalisation but is pretty accurate I think.

This rings a bell. When I started, I really wanted a Stratocaster. Options were limited, pre-internet. You could have a new-fangled USA Standard (out of reach for a teenager!) or a plywood Squier. The secondhand market was a much smaller pool, awash with the worst of the CBS dreck. It felt like players were hanging on to the decent guitars from that era, and the newer guitars were *too* new for many to appear used.

Amps were pretty cumbersome affairs, or at least the good-sounding ones were. Bigger Marshalls and Fenders didn't really have a place in the sitting room, and it'd be a few years before the small modellers like the THR would appear.

Hence there was an acoustic in the lounge for me to pick up so that's what I did. I was very lucky in that it was a D-35, but I also had 'my' guitar, an old EKO dreadnought of indeterminate vintage. I learned on acoustic for a couple of years before even touching an electric.

The market for electrics is so wonderfully diverse now, from a perfectly playable £80 Harley Benton to a many-thousands Custom Shop and all points in between. I think I would have dipped into electric much quicker given that choice.

As it is, I'm glad in a way that I had the start on acoustic. It's a different art form in many ways and it's given me a lot of pleasure down the years. Not so much my bank manager when I finally ponied up for my own D-28, but ah well

bertie · March 2022

randella said:
This rings a bell. When I started, I really wanted a Stratocaster. Options were limited, pre-internet. You could have a new-fangled USA Standard (out of reach for a teenager!) or a plywood Squier.

Squiers were in the distant future when I was learning.................... cheap "Top Twenty" and other far eastern shite and even that was "hard" to come-by - and as for amps ? forget it, had to use what ever was in the school music room.............. (tho we did have a Sound City, a Selmer bass amp and the teacher had a WEM Dominator)

TheMadMick · March 2022

Don't really care about the electric side of things although I do find some of the miscellany interesting. However, my first points of call are always Acoustics and Acoustics£ (not that I intend to buy anything but it is interesting). After that it's recent posts to see if I can find anything else of interest. Usually it's sparse hunting but there are occasional gems.

Love it on this board - the balance of discipline, friendliness and help are about right for me irrespective.

Mellish · March 2022

I like it on Acoustics too. There's always someone who knows, making it a great place to learn

jca74 · March 2022

bertie said:

why not banjo's ?

Careful...I have a good catalogue of banjo jokes which I may be forced to start inflicting on people...

randella · March 2022

bertie said:

randella said:
This rings a bell. When I started, I really wanted a Stratocaster. Options were limited, pre-internet. You could have a new-fangled USA Standard (out of reach for a teenager!) or a plywood Squier.
Squiers were in the distant future when I was learning.................... cheap "Top Twenty" and other far eastern shite and even that was "hard" to come-by - and as for amps ? forget it, had to use what ever was in the school music room.............. (tho we did have a Sound City, a Selmer bass amp and the teacher had a WEM Dominator)

Some nice gear for a music room! Just out of curiosity, I did the inflation calculator on the £100 the entry-level Squiers cost in '89 when I started. £265 in today's money for a lump of construction ply with some shit pickups nailed to it, the youth today don't know they're born

This has me thinking now, what happened to all those nylon-strung acoustics that music rooms used to have? They were everywhere at one point. Watching a school mate play one of those was the reason I decided to start in the first place.

ditchboy · March 2022

I’m lazy. So I like the fact you can just pick up an acoustic and off you go. No getting the amp out of the wardrobe. Unravelling the leads. Waiting for the thing to power up. Finding the settings you like. Blah blah. Just doesn’t have the same appeal. I do like electrics but I’m more drawn to the stripped back nature of acoustic music anyway. One of the best gigs I’ve ever been to was Jake Bugg and his acoustic guitar. Nothing else, it was phenomenal.

Soupman · March 2022

@randella yes, entry level instruments today are much better than in the 70s & 80s. As for the nylon school guitars, I hope they ended up where they should have been - as spare cricket bats, or blocking up broken windows with the rest of the plywood!

poopot · March 2022

TTony said:

guitarjack66 said:

Ironically,the cooler element may be returning through the likes of Ed Sheeran.

Wow.

I've just seen "cooler" and "Ed Sheeran" in the same sentence.

Best place for him to be fair!…

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