I went and played some D28s

TimmyO · June 2019

Maybe <shifty>

WiresDreamDisasters · June 2019

Any experience with Taylor guitars Tim? And if so, how do they contrast with Martin ones?

earwighoney · June 2019

WiresDreamDisasters said:

Any experience with Taylor guitars Tim? And if so, how do they contrast with Martin ones?

Taylors - generally brighter and more modern sounding

Martins - more emphasis on sounding woody/darker/warmer & more traditional sounding.

But these are generalisations and things do vary from guitar to guitar.

What are you after Drew?

WiresDreamDisasters · June 2019

earwighoney said:

WiresDreamDisasters said:

Any experience with Taylor guitars Tim? And if so, how do they contrast with Martin ones?

Taylors - generally brighter and more modern sounding

Martins - more emphasis on sounding woody/darker/warmer & more traditional sounding.

But these are generalisations and things do vary from guitar to guitar.

What are you after Drew?

Heh heh heh. Well I have a Taylor 810, and a darker/warmer guitar is probably where my head is at right now. Thinking about flogging the Taylor to get a Martin.

Andy79 · June 2019

There’s still another ‘41 at GV.......

earwighoney · June 2019

WiresDreamDisasters said:

earwighoney said:

WiresDreamDisasters said:

Any experience with Taylor guitars Tim? And if so, how do they contrast with Martin ones?

Taylors - generally brighter and more modern sounding

Martins - more emphasis on sounding woody/darker/warmer & more traditional sounding.

But these are generalisations and things do vary from guitar to guitar.

What are you after Drew?

Heh heh heh. Well I have a Taylor 810, and a darker/warmer guitar is probably where my head is at right now. Thinking about flogging the Taylor to get a Martin.

If you're finding the Taylor bright then it might be a good idea to shift it.

IMO, if you're looking for a Martin voiced guitar I'd recommend having a look at Furch. They make left handed guitars, but you might have order one.

Check this video out, a Martin v Furch one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7O0GfbeW30

TimmyO · June 2019

WiresDreamDisasters said:

Any experience with Taylor guitars Tim? And if so, how do they contrast with Martin ones?

Not with any of the high end ones no - I'd played a couple of lower (maybe 214/314 cutaway models) years ago and hadn't done anything for me so I never really bothered beyond that.

imho the Martin thing is as much about a deeper/stronger fundamental as it is about warmer/less bright - although there are many folk more familiar with them than me.

I'm also a total sucker for the iconic look of a J45 so I'll say try those too :-)

WiresDreamDisasters · June 2019

Cheers fellas, I think I'll go and try out some mid to high end Martin's. The 810 cost me a pretty penny. I don't hate it, it's great. But it's not exactly where I want to be.

TimmyO · June 2019

WiresDreamDisasters said:

Cheers fellas, I think I'll go and try out some mid to high end Martin's. The 810 cost me a pretty penny. I don't hate it, it's great. But it's not exactly where I want to be.

If you can take your Taylor with you and try it against a new (H)D28 Reimagined you'll know inside a minute if that's the direction you want to go

RandallFlagg · June 2019

I have one of the new Reimagined HD28s. It's flawless and the aged toner looked a bit plain yellow when I bought it in November last year but with time hanging on the wall the wood is aging and grain showing through nicely now and it doesn't look so new, this will only get better as the years roll by.

Tone wise I find the forward shifted bracing added some extra high end zing when new but that's starting to even out a bit and the sound become more balanced with time, especially with D'addario EJ17 strings fitted (I previously used Exilir nano coated)

The 1 3/4 nut width took a little time to adjust to from a previous D28 1 11/16ths but I don't notice it now.

I love Martin Guitars!

stickyfiddle · June 2019

TimmyO said:

WiresDreamDisasters said:

Cheers fellas, I think I'll go and try out some mid to high end Martin's. The 810 cost me a pretty penny. I don't hate it, it's great. But it's not exactly where I want to be.

If you can take your Taylor with you and try it against a new (H)D28 Reimagined you'll know inside a minute if that's the direction you want to go

Ya this.

FWIW I loved my old Taylor 214 (and still think that's one of the very best sub-1k options around) but once the Martin "thing" hooks you in there's no going back.

Dainty · June 2019

I have the HD-28V and it is awesome...

Kittyfrisk · June 2019

Lewy said:

Kittyfrisk said:

Reimagined; Modern Deluxe: Authentic: ?
Please preserve us all from such marketing bollocks

They're fantastically easy not to buy, or in fact read about, or comment on.

How would you rather a maker differentiates between lines with different features...colour coding?

I was commenting on the use of words that already have established meanings, such as 'Authentic'.
"Authentic: of undisputed origin and not a copy; genuine."

Kittyfrisk · June 2019

TimmyO said:

Kittyfrisk said:

Reimagined; Modern Deluxe: Authentic: ?
Please preserve us all from such marketing bollocks

How's the "Vox Phantom" ? ;-)

And your point is?
I commented on a Vox Phantom organ guitar in another, completely unrelated thread.
Nothing whatever to do with my statement, or my dislike of marketing types highjacking language.

Andy79 · June 2019

A Harmony Sovereign isn’t really a Sovereign either. I think you’re being a tad pedantic. This could descend into chaos.

Kittyfrisk · June 2019

Andy79 said:

A Harmony Sovereign isn’t really a Sovereign either. I think you’re being a tad pedantic. This could descend into chaos.

And a Sovereign is a Monarch or a coin.
I could go on, but that was never & is not, my point.

As you might have gathered, I get hacked off with random descriptions like "Authentic" "historically-accurate" when not backed up by evidence/truth .
It's my bugbear, so please don't feel obliged to correct me when I'm not factually wrong

Lewy · June 2019

Kittyfrisk said:

Andy79 said:

A Harmony Sovereign isn’t really a Sovereign either. I think you’re being a tad pedantic. This could descend into chaos.

And a Sovereign is a Monarch or a coin.
I could go on, but that was never & is not, my point.

As you might have gathered, I get hacked off with random descriptions like "Authentic" "historically-accurate" when not backed up by evidence/truth .
It's my bugbear, so please don't feel obliged to correct me when I'm not factually wrong

You’re being very selective with the bits of the definition you’re choosing to quote, because Authentic is also defined as “Made or done in the traditional or original way, or in a way that faithfully resembles an original”. Which is what these guitars are.

In answer to the point about being backed up by evidence/truth, Martin took real examples of each type from their museum and had them CAT scanned at the Smithsonian so they could replicate them in the custom shop. So, I’m not sure where you’re factually right on this one really....

TimmyO · January 2020

@markj - bump for you re Martins

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