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Bruce Kulick or Neal Schon?

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Ok, I know Michael Bolton had a much ridiculed hairstyle, but he was still a great artist and the question is:

Who Played the awesome solo on "Gina"?

The Album credits 6 guitarists(see wiki link), but I'm guessing it was either Neal or Bruce who played on this.

Can't find much with a quick google search either.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hunger_(Michael_Bolton_album)

Solo is at 2:20

Trying to compare styles, I would have said it was Bruce. Whoever it was, it's a beauty.

Your opinions?

 

 

 

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  • John_PJohn_P Frets: 2725
    I could easily be wrong but it sounds a lot more Kulick than Schon to me.

    Of course as it's a session, he could be playing with a slightly different style/tone to usual.
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  • BucketBucket Frets: 7749
    Sounded quite Schon-y to me in places... although there wasn't very much incongruous fast wanking there (which Schon does a lot of, check out the solo in "Faithfully" by Journey), so it may have been someone different.
    - "I'm going to write a very stiff letter. A VERY stiff letter. On cardboard."
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  • BellycasterBellycaster Frets: 5750
    Bucket said:
    Sounded quite Schon-y to me in places... although there wasn't very much incongruous fast wanking there (which Schon does a lot of, check out the solo in "Faithfully" by Journey), so it may have been someone different.


    Hi @Bucket

    It's a tough one to decide. I absolutely love Journey and Neal's playing can be either very melodic and soulful or quite ripping, but I would never say he is out and out "Shred Monster" although he's no slouch.

    The only Kulick stuff I've heard is Kiss 1987 album "Crazy Nights", he seems to be the more Shred-prone or widdly Guitarist.

    They are both great players though.

     

    :)
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  • BucketBucket Frets: 7749
    edited August 2013
    Bellycaster said:

    Hi @Bucket

    It's a tough one to decide. I absolutely love Journey and Neal's playing can be either very melodic and soulful or quite ripping, but I would never say he is out and out "Shred Monster" although he's no slouch.

    I know - my problem with him tends to be that he'll be in the middle of an amazing soulful melody before going into a massive pentatonic wank lick - he does that rather too much for my liking. If he'd follow through with the melody instead of ruining it by following it up with a totally anticlimactic scale-burning session, his solos would be so much more enjoyable IMO. That's why "Don't Stop Believing" is such a good solo - he plays a melody instead of starting a melody and going into a stupid wank run.


    Sorry, but surely there are numerous better ways of ending that phrase? It just doesn't fit, more to the point... I bet you Petrucci wouldn't have played it like that :D Amazing tone and feel though, when he's not blazing.
    - "I'm going to write a very stiff letter. A VERY stiff letter. On cardboard."
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  • BellycasterBellycaster Frets: 5750

    @Bucket

    Yep, that tends to be like a habit with Neal, it's one of his trademarks, but isn't really necessary to enhance his playing.

    It's like he's thinking "I must put some fast run in there, it's too slow"

    A good example him sticking to the melody is "Who's Crying Now" solo at the end, it's perfect.

     

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  • monquixotemonquixote Frets: 17108
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    I'd say that's almost certainly Bruce Kulick. 

    The fast run at the end of the solo is almost the same as the one in Crazy Nights. 
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  • ddloopingddlooping Frets: 325
    I'd say Bruce Kulick too. :)
    It also sounds like some guitar parts were recording using a Rockman. :D
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  • monquixotemonquixote Frets: 17108
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    That might be why his tone sounds a bit different than usual. 
    Kiss had a no Rockman policy in the studio.
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  • axisusaxisus Frets: 27656
    Maybe not Bruce. I just looked up on the Kiss FAQ discography, and on that album it says that Bruce played guitar on the 1st and 8th tracks only, which would be Hot Love and Take a Look at my Face.
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  • BellycasterBellycaster Frets: 5750

    @axisus

    Nice find. That's made me more curious now. Out of those 2, I would have gone for Bruce anyday. I don't know much about the other 4 guitarists on the album, I suppose it could have been one of those.

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  • KebabkidKebabkid Frets: 3178
    edited August 2013
    It's Bruce Kulick and it does sound like a Rockman or GK 250ML. I can't remember if it's the same album but
    Neal Schon played a great, Stratty, melodic blues solo on Bolton's version of 'Sitting on the dock of the bay''.

    Re:Schon's ability to 'go off on one' during a nice melodic solo - this seems to have continued and I'm not as much of a fan of his any more. Same with Lukather. Although these days he's to be found more behind the mixing desk or playing the odd country session, IMHO, Dann Huff was the one who managed to get the right mix of melody and flash in AOR solos. Oh, and Tim Pierce too from Rick Springfield's band who plays perfect, short snappy solos.
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  • RocknRollDaveRocknRollDave Frets: 6075
    Kirk Hammett

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  • BellycasterBellycaster Frets: 5750

    @Kebabkid

    That's another player I will have to check out (Tim Pierce) although I think I only know 2 Rick Springfield tracks and I bet you know what they are?

    Nice one on the answer too to the question. Is it inside information from the Music Biz ;)

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  • BellycasterBellycaster Frets: 5750

    @ddlooping

    Don't be shy, out with it, man!

     

    ;)
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  • ddloopingddlooping Frets: 325
    I was trying to get rid of a pesky draft and ended up with a repost. :D
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  • BellycasterBellycaster Frets: 5750
    ddlooping said:
    I was trying to get rid of a pesky draft and ended up with a repost. :D


    Ah, that old Chesnut.

     

    :)
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  • KebabkidKebabkid Frets: 3178
    edited August 2013
    Actually @Bellycaster, I stand corrected. I just found this and whilst I thought BK played on "Hot Love" & "Gina" as they had similar sound and style, it WASN'T him but a Bob Halligan!
    http://www.kiss-related-recordings.nl/michaelbolton_hunger.html

    Interestingly enough, there are some heavy weight singers on backing vocals.
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  • BellycasterBellycaster Frets: 5750

    @Kebabkid

    Mystery solved :-)

    I've not heard of Bob Haligan before, he is credited on the wiki page though. The other 3 seem to be missing though from the Wiki page: Danny Merlin, Paul Pesco and Ira Siegel. Although it does say selective list on the web page.

    He can certainly play well anyway.

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  • BucketBucket Frets: 7749
    @Kebabkid - wholeheartedly agreed on Dann Huff. He is incredible.
    - "I'm going to write a very stiff letter. A VERY stiff letter. On cardboard."
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  • KebabkidKebabkid Frets: 3178
    edited August 2013
    Aye. Those Giant albums are something else and I was lucky enough to see them live. Musically, they were great and DH wailed effortlessly, but his live voice was pants.

    I discovered that DH played the solo on this Rascal Flatts' song, "Life is a highway" plus he's on Madonna stuff too and countless other sessions.



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  • bigjonbigjon Frets: 680
    Kebabkid said:
     IMHO, Dann Huff was the one who managed to get the right mix of melody and flash in AOR solos. Oh, and Tim Pierce too from Rick Springfield's band who plays perfect, short snappy solos.
    @Kebabkid, I had a thread on the temporary forum at

    http://musicradar.myfreeforum.org/about385.html

    of stonking guitar solos in cheesy songs - my contributions featured Dan Huff heavily. My favourite is this one, because the floyd-scoops, pinch harmonics, feedback and blinding alternate-picked run at the end contrast so starkly with the oh-so-safe exact Middle-Of-The-Road production of the rest of the song. Mr Huff's solo is at 2:15

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  • BellycasterBellycaster Frets: 5750

    @Kebabkid

    All hail the guitar god that is Dann Huff!

    Good cover that song btw, I love the Tom Cochrane version too.

    @bigjon

    Yep, you can whiff the Gorgonzola coming out of the screen with that song.

     

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