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Gibson J45 strap pin

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Where is the best place fit a strap pin on a J45? I've fitted them to guitars with a Martin style neck heel but not the Gibson type.
Many thanks in advance.
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 69426
    On the rounded Gibson-type heels I fit them directly on the centreline of the heel, about an inch up from the back of the guitar.

    Make absolutely certain you drill properly to the right diameter or there is a possibility of splitting the heel, since you're going directly into end grain.

    The 'Martin' position on the treble side slope will work as well, but it's more awkward because it's more nearly at a right angle to the side of the guitar.

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  • BigLicks67BigLicks67 Frets: 763
    If there is a chance of splitting the heel then I will leave well alone.
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 69426
    BigLicks67 said:
    If there is a chance of splitting the heel then I will leave well alone.
    Not if you drill the right hole. The problem is when someone just uses a bradawl or drills a tiny hole that's too small for the screw.

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  • AliGorieAliGorie Frets: 308
    ICBM said:
    BigLicks67 said:
    If there is a chance of splitting the heel then I will leave well alone.
    Not if you drill the right hole. The problem is when someone just uses a bradawl or drills a tiny hole that's too small for the screw.

    correct -
    wouldn't put a wood screw in (quality) wood without per-drilling the hole with the appropriate size drill bit - read up on it.
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  • BigLicks67BigLicks67 Frets: 763
    ICBM said:
    BigLicks67 said:
    If there is a chance of splitting the heel then I will leave well alone.
    Not if you drill the right hole. The problem is when someone just uses a bradawl or drills a tiny hole that's too small for the screw.
    @ICBM did you install one on your Gibson Dove, if so any chance you could a post a pic of where you sited it.
    I used a drill on my Martin with the right size bit, but I did consider a smaller bit whilst weighing it up and now after reading this I'm glad I went with the larger bit.
    I'm currently using a planet waves strap lock so it's not particularly a must do alteration. 
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 69426
    BigLicks67 said:

    @ICBM did you install one on your Gibson Dove, if so any chance you could a post a pic of where you sited it. 
    On the centreline, an inch up from the back :).



    I mark the position first with a small cross-head screwdriver (really! It's an excellent marker into wood) and check that it's definitely right before drilling - this also stops the drill bit from slipping.

    The right size hole is one just larger than the 'core' of the screw thread but smaller than the outside of the threads. You need to drill in to the exact depth that the screw protrudes through the button - I use a piece of masking tape on the bit to mark it.

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  • BigLicks67BigLicks67 Frets: 763
    Okay, thanks that's a great help.
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