Fretboard Jam - 2017 Leicester - 2nd September - Running Order V4 Now up!!

Bridgehouse · July 2017

aord43 said:

Perhaps the comment about "shreddy stuff" should be taken as a warning to remember that the OP specifically says:

"The emphasis of this Jam is newcomers, those with less experience or none at all. However all levels of experience very much welcome."

So notwithstanding the second part of that comment, the first part must not be forgotten - Personally I have no performance or band experience despite having tinkered with the instrument for 20 years, and would be easily intimidated if I thought it was a session for experienced band members.

Not that I don't enjoy seeing and listening to people who are good at it, of course, and it's great to get inspiration from those for whom this is all in a day's work

Shred, chords, Oasis, Beatles, simple, hard, it can all be worked in over 5 hours!

Alnico · July 2017

aord43 said:

Perhaps the comment about "shreddy stuff" should be taken as a warning to remember that the OP specifically says:

"The emphasis of this Jam is newcomers, those with less experience or none at all. However all levels of experience very much welcome."

So notwithstanding the second part of that comment, the first part must not be forgotten - Personally I have no performance or band experience despite having tinkered with the instrument for 20 years, and would be easily intimidated if I thought it was a session for experienced band members.

Not that I don't enjoy seeing and listening to people who are good at it, of course, and it's great to get inspiration from those for whom this is all in a day's work

The day is for everyone and there will be parts of the day where the emphasis will be on newcomers just as there'll be parts of it where the emphasis will be on those with experience.

We're trying very hard to keep this balanced and encourage people to enjoy performances as much as feel confident to perform themselves.

We're not forgetting the newcomers at all, if anything the more experienced among us are going out of our way to help them and it's not a session for those of us who've got experience, it's a session for everyone with (hopefully) a good mix of talent and styles across the board.

I particularly like your comment about "Inspiration" because what the more experienced among us will be doing, Shredding or not we're very much hoping WILL inspire people, not intimidate them.

I can't really stress this enough, we're working very hard to make this "For Everyone" as much as that's possible.

digitalscream · July 2017

It's also worth noting that some of us will be taking fair risks even though we're pretty experienced - like playing Extreme tracks. I mean...there's a significant chance it's going to go horribly wrong, which will also serve as an object lesson to the less-experienced in terms of, "Don't play stuff beyond your reach in front of people"

Alnico · July 2017

digitalscream said:

It's also worth noting that some of us will be taking fair risks even though we're pretty experienced - like playing Extreme tracks. I mean...there's a significant chance it's going to go horribly wrong, which will also serve as an object lesson to the less-experienced in terms of, "Don't play stuff beyond your reach in front of people"

Speaking from my own perspective, I've got tonnes of experience at jam sessions over the years.
I also haven't been able to play at all, for medical reasons, for the last 12 months so I'm horribly out of practice and therefore horribly lacking in confidence. Any song will be a risk for me and one that I'll have to practice like hell over the next weeks just to make a reasonable job of, even then I can't guarantee it'll work.

What I'm trying to say is that in many ways, a lot of us are in a very similar position, definitely including me.
My experience "Over the Years" won't count for much when my fingers have forgotten how to do it !

Hopefully, that will give some of you some extra confidence yourselves.

Nikko · July 2017

I think the event could do with someone who can play basic power chord rhythm quite badly, so im checking that the Wife hasn't got anything in the diary for that day. if she hasn't, ill come along

Alnico · July 2017

Nikko said:

I think the event could do with someone who can play basic power chord rhythm quite badly, so im checking that the Wife hasn't got anything in the diary for that day. if she hasn't, ill come along

Glad to see you there if you can make it @Nikko

There's only 3 places left so don't leave it too long ok?

Roland · July 2017

not_the_dj said:

Teenage Kicks
Ever Fallen in Love
20th Century Boy
Pretty Vacant
Crossroads
Rocking in the Free World

Tom Petty's "Runnin' Down a Dream"

impmann said:

Superstition

aord43 said:

Hit the Road Jack (just 4 chords over and over with plenty of scope for soloing)
Take your Mama (Scissor Sisters)

Someone else said:
Mustang Sally

What suggestions do we have in other genres?

Has anyone learned a solo, playing to a backing track, which they want to try out with other musicians?

BigMonka · July 2017

I'd love to come along, but it's my wedding anniversary.
Is there anything fun-for-women nearby that I could plan a day out to, then on the day make some sort of "oh, as it happens a couple o people are meeting nearby, maybe I should leave you to have some space for 1 or 5 hours?!"

aord43 · July 2017

When I looked at playing Superstition it was in E flat, which meant tuning down, so I didn't bother. It's bad enough trying to play songs in standard tuning

darthed1981 · July 2017

Have people got thoughts about having a couple of jars afterwards?

I get out so little these days I'm thinking of booking a hotel.

Modellista · July 2017

Is it just me or is anyone else a bit jealous that they can't make it to this due to incompatible date and/or location? Any northerners fancy arranging something similar later on in the year? (let's not hijack the thread, just putting it out there)

Bridgehouse · July 2017

modellista said:

Is it just me or is anyone else a bit jealous that they can't make it to this due to incompatible date and/or location? Any northerners fancy arranging something similar later on in the year? (let's not hijack the thread, just putting it out there)

If it's a success, I'm happy to organise a northern adventure too

Nikko · July 2017

Alnico said:

Nikko said:

I think the event could do with someone who can play basic power chord rhythm quite badly, so im checking that the Wife hasn't got anything in the diary for that day. if she hasn't, ill come along

Glad to see you there if you can make it @Nikko

There's only 3 places left so don't leave it too long ok?

Ok, im in! Diary is clear

Who do I pay?

By the way, ill be driving up from Harlow, Essex, so if anyone wants a lift that is on my way, just let me know.

Cheers.

Alnico · July 2017

aord43 said:

When I looked at playing Superstition it was in E flat, which meant tuning down, so I didn't bother. It's bad enough trying to play songs in standard tuning

When we finalise a list, which none of that list is yet, we can always agree to play songs like that in standard tuning to make it easier for exactly this kind of situation.

If everyone can stick just suggestions until this weekend then over the weekend we'll agree a solid list for people to start practice from and as part of that we can look to find compromise with the keys we use.

How's that?

Alnico · July 2017

Nikko said:

Alnico said:

Nikko said:

I think the event could do with someone who can play basic power chord rhythm quite badly, so im checking that the Wife hasn't got anything in the diary for that day. if she hasn't, ill come along

Glad to see you there if you can make it @Nikko

There's only 3 places left so don't leave it too long ok?

Ok, im in! Diary is clear
Who do I pay?
By the way, ill be driving up from Harlow, Essex, so if anyone wants a lift that is on my way, just let me know.
Cheers.

Pm bridge house.
I'll amend the list.

2 places left now !!

Alnico · July 2017

I'll be putting locations next to usernames on the main list over the next few days as and when I have time.
If I need to I'll just PM you guys to ask where you're travelling from but there's still over 6 weeks to go yet so there's no rush to get this done by tonight.
We will aim to have things more sorted over the rest of this week and the weekend so that as we begin next week the list will be full, we'll know who's travelling from where and with some debate and discussion we will know how many songs there are to choose from and which songs to practice.

Modellista · July 2017

Bridgehouse said:

modellista said:

Is it just me or is anyone else a bit jealous that they can't make it to this due to incompatible date and/or location? Any northerners fancy arranging something similar later on in the year? (let's not hijack the thread, just putting it out there)

If it's a success, I'm happy to organise a northern adventure too

Brilliant. I'd be happy to help.

TheOtherDennis · July 2017

Alnico said:

Roland said:

octatonic said:

I would caution against making the set list overly prescriptive.
We want to make this fun, and not make people feel like this is homework.

Actually, homework would be useful. If we have a menu of, say, 12 songs then one of us could put together chord charts. I'd also find it useful to listen to the songs beforehand.

... which reminds me. Does the venue have music stands?

I honestly don't know.
It shouldn't be too difficult to find out although I don't remember us having them last time.....
@TheOtherDennis .......can you remember us using music stands?

I don't recall, but I don't think we did. Not sure if they have any, simply because I don't know and haven't asked. I can find out if you like, though.

impmann · July 2017

aord43 said:

When I looked at playing Superstition it was in E flat, which meant tuning down, so I didn't bother. It's bad enough trying to play songs in standard tuning

TBH, we played it in B the last time I played it because we had a female vocalist so I wouldn't know what the original was played in.

The riff is actually really easy to transpose - once you've got the 'shape' in your head.

Alnico · July 2017

Personally I can't see them being provided by a studio but if you want to go ahead and ask they might be able to include some.

Alnico · July 2017

impmann said:

aord43 said:

When I looked at playing Superstition it was in E flat, which meant tuning down, so I didn't bother. It's bad enough trying to play songs in standard tuning

TBH, we played it in B the last time I played it because we had a female vocalist so I wouldn't know what the original was played in.

The riff is actually really easy to transpose - once you've got the 'shape' in your head.

......Tim is right and again @aord43 .....if you need some help with getting that under your fingers we can sort that out. There's plenty of time.

Roland · July 2017

aord43 said:

When I looked at playing Superstition it was in E flat, which meant tuning down, so I didn't bother. It's bad enough trying to play songs in standard tuning

I suspect that it will get played in E. Alternatives are to detune your guitar by a semi tone, or you can play through my rig and turn on the detune pedal.

octatonic · July 2017

Roland said:

aord43 said:

When I looked at playing Superstition it was in E flat, which meant tuning down, so I didn't bother. It's bad enough trying to play songs in standard tuning

I suspect that it will get played in E. Alternatives are to detune your guitar by a semi tone, or you can play through my rig and turn on the detune pedal.

Or just play in Eb without tuning down.

darthed1981 · July 2017

Do we need a thread for who is bringing what gear? Might be some requests from some members collections?

Just a thought.

Alnico · July 2017

I don't think we need another thread we can do that here as it's general discussion now that 'Logistics' and 'Songs' have their own thread. Lets keep it to those 3 threads and put gear idea's here.

I'm bringing:
Fender American Pro Strat with SD Classic Stack Humbucker pickups.
Handbuilt Relic Telecaster
Ibanez Iron Label (EMG)
Gretsch G2420 Streamliner (Non-Bigsby)
+
Boss GT100 Multi FX

My amp is either a Blackstar Series one 200..........which there's no chance of me bringing and no point or a Marshall CODE 25 which won't be loud enough so I'll either use an amp that's there (I only need a clean channel for modelling) or I'll go straight to the PA.

digitalscream · July 2017

Yep, I'll bring:

Pedalboard (Bogner Red, AMT clean preamp, Eventide Time Factor etc)
Jet City JCA22H and JCA50H
Matrix NL212
Both Jaden Rose Teles

Nikko · July 2017

Ill probably just travel light and bring one guitar and an FX unit. Hopefully I will be able to use one of the house amps, unless someone really wants me to bring a Katana 50??

So...

Gibson Les Paul - 50s Tribute, faded.

Zoom G3XN

Cheers

darthed1981 · July 2017

Alnico said:

I don't think we need another thread we can do that here as it's general discussion now that 'Logistics' and 'Songs' have their own thread. Lets keep it to those 3 threads and put gear idea's here.

OK Cool.

I'm going to bring my Les Paul Faded and Squier CV Tele, if I can't play it with those...

Well I probably can't play it anyway but pretty versatile!

Also probably my Boss GT-8 if we can go straight to PA, I've nothing posh amp-wise so no point bringing those!

Alnico · July 2017

Nikko said:

Ill probably just travel light and bring one guitar and an FX unit. Hopefully I will be able to use one of the house amps, unless someone really wants me to bring a Katana 50??
So...
Gibson Les Paul - 50s Tribute, faded.
Zoom G3XN
Cheers

Yes !

I think the Katana 50 is a very popular current amp that a lot of people would want to see and hear, especially at Jam / Gig type of volume.
I'd say that's very relevant.

darthed1981 · July 2017

Alnico said:

Nikko said:

Ill probably just travel light and bring one guitar and an FX unit. Hopefully I will be able to use one of the house amps, unless someone really wants me to bring a Katana 50??
So...
Gibson Les Paul - 50s Tribute, faded.
Zoom G3XN
Cheers

Yes !

I think the Katana 50 is a very popular current amp that a lot of people would want to see and hear, especially at Jam / Gig type of volume.
I'd say that's very relevant.

Can I bring mine as well, my wife never lets me do LOTS of things but crank the heck out of my Katana 50 is definitely one of them?

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