WTB Lazy J 20

monkey42 · July 2015

...preferably with the reverb module at least Anyone point me in a direction please

guitarman · July 2015

I know someone selling a Victoria 20112 if you are interested.

IvisonGuitars · July 2015

I'll just jump in here having compared the Victoria 20112 to the Lazy J20. They are 2 very different amps.

While in the same tonal ballpark, the Victoria is a faithful recreation of the 5E3 circuit - more of a reliable version of the originals. 14w and, IMO, not really gigable without micing up and the J20 is a tweaked 18w amp, a more gigable/flexible version of the same circuit.

Both very cool but 2 very different applications.

Just my 2 peneth.

Wazmeister · July 2015

Lazy J 20 - THE best amp I've ever played. Fact.

guitarman · July 2015

I have played both too and tbh didn't like either!!! lol. I played them against a Carr Rambler and 6v. The 6v blew the socks of everything. Infact there is a guy on here how is selling a 6v.

But in all honesty.....buy a Matchless/Bad cat or Dr.Z (i'm just biased to those brands). They have stood the test of time.

IvisonGuitars · July 2015

@guitarman

I have Matchless, Bad Cat, Top Hat and Lazy J and while the Matchless & Bad Cat are in similar territory, the Top Hat - the BEST vintage Marshall you will ever hear - and the Lazy J are different beasts. Indeed, the J20 can sound a bit honky & muffled after going from a DC30 but, if one has the option, then it's nice to have a choice of different amps, a diverse sonic palette if you will, for different applications.

I got my first Lazy J about 4 years ago and my J20H shortly after so have definitely gotten over the honeymoon period and they are still great amps....seems like they are now THE amp to have on the fretboard too! :-)

By the way @monkey42, there is a non reverb model - an early one I think with the VAC on the underside of the chassis - for sale in the Lazy J Facebook group.

monkey42 · July 2015

miserneil said:

@guitarman

I have Matchless, Bad Cat, Top Hat and Lazy J and while the Matchless & Bad Cat are in similar territory, the Top Hat - the BEST vintage Marshall you will ever hear - and the Lazy J are different beasts. Indeed, the J20 can sound a bit honky & muffled after going from a DC30 but, if one has the option, then it's nice to have a choice of different amps, a diverse sonic palette if you will, for different applications.

I got my first Lazy J about 4 years ago and my J20H shortly after so have definitely gotten over the honeymoon period and they are still great amps....seems like they are now THE amp to have on the fretboard too! :-)

By the way @monkey42, there is a non reverb model - an early one I think with the VAC on the underside of the chassis - for sale in the Lazy J Facebook group.

Thanks for all the help guys, and yes all the amps mentioned above are all excellent in there own right. I've had Matchless/Bad Cat/ Divided by 13 and each have there own place.

Neil thanks for the tip off about the used non reverb model, I'm currently in touch with the guy (a big thanks to @hotpickups for the assistance). Its a good price, but shame its up in Scotland so difficult to view/collect and the reverb sounds lush on these amps

Gassage · July 2015

I'd not been seen dead with one and I lie about mine.

But Jesse gives me 20% everytime one sells on here.

nickb_boy · July 2015

I'd love to try one in person. They seem to be flavour of the month right now. The reverb and trem does sound incredible from the clips I've heard. Doubt I'd ever afford a fully loaded one though unfortunately, and I'd feel like it wasn't complete without the extra goodies.

Good luck with the quest

Gassage · July 2015

The trem is a bias trem with valves hither and thither in the extension module inside. It's lush.

guitarpolo · July 2015

If you can grab one at a decent price I wouldn't personally worry about the 'extras' at all. I found the reverb and trem nice, but it's not where the magic is, and pedals can do an equally good job in my opinion. If you're gonna use it to gig with it you probably won't even use the vac either - I know I didn't, although it can be useful for home playing.

monkey42 · July 2015

Keep em coming guys. Tracked the guy down from Scotland and had some dialogue, since then I can't track him down so still looking

hotpickups · July 2015

Hang in there. They do pop up here now and then. Worth the wait though and I'm sure it won't be like 6-8 months to wait for a new one

Gassage · July 2015

guitarpolo said:

If you can grab one at a decent price I wouldn't personally worry about the 'extras' at all. I found the reverb and trem nice, but it's not where the magic is, and pedals can do an equally good job in my opinion. If you're gonna use it to gig with it you probably won't even use the vac either - I know I didn't, although it can be useful for home playing.

Add: Jesse can retro fit them for about 300 each

stevie_the_spy · July 2015

I have a lazy j20 with reverb, Vac and celestion blue. I've just re-tubed it with EH tubes as per Jesse's advice.

It comes with a fitted cover and I'd sell it for £1900 if you're interested?

JonHosker · July 2015

counting the weeks till mine arrives!!!

stevie_the_spy · July 2015

you will not be disappointed :-)

Wazmeister · July 2015

I had a long chat with Jesse yesterday, and he is a great guy - he really is. Listened and answered all my daft questions, and was thoroughly helpful.

Top man - top amp !

JonHosker · September 2015

Half way there till my LJ20 arives - struggling with my only other amp - a Roland Micro Cube!!!!! Patience I hear you say.

hotpickups · September 2015

The first 3 months are the hardest so the worst is over

JonHosker;789607" said:
Half way there till my LJ20 arives - struggling with my only other amp - a Roland Micro Cube!!!!!

Patience I hear you say.

Wazmeister · September 2015

My recommendation, as a Lazy J 'fan boy', is to have the NON reverb and term option... Pedals can do this superbly these days

Majorscale · September 2015

What a coincidence. I havent played my J20H for a few months to give my old Cornford Hurricane a workout again...until tonight. Good God the J20 sounds immense! Strat->Dumble-esque overdrive->J20H set very mildly dirty->huge grin!!!!

You will be going from tonal hell (sorry Microcube!) to heaven!!!

guitarpolo · September 2015

Wazmeister said:

My recommendation, as a Lazy J 'fan boy', is to have the NON reverb and term option... Pedals can do this superbly these days

I agree with this - crank it dry I say!

hotpickups · September 2015

Good to have reverb though if you don't want to take a board with you

JohnPerry · September 2015

Wazmeister;789711" said:
My recommendation, as a Lazy J 'fan boy', is to have the NON reverb and term option... Pedals can do this superbly these days

I agree on the verb (though it's the best amp reverb I have) but the trem is delicious (up there with the Swart) and I speak as someone with a Chase Bliss Gravitas

JohnPerry · September 2015

Pretty sure Cowboymod in Oxford still have one for sale.

Chalky · September 2015

Cowboymod had two when I went there week before last.

smogfalls · September 2015

JohnPerry said:

Wazmeister;789711" said:
My recommendation, as a Lazy J 'fan boy', is to have the NON reverb and term option... Pedals can do this superbly these days
I agree on the verb (though it's the best amp reverb I have) but the trem is delicious (up there with the Swart) and I speak as someone with a Chase Bliss Gravitas

Haha, well with all due respect, I couldn't agree less!! I LOVE the reverb on my lazy J 20 and absolutely need it! It forms an essential part of my bass tone. It's gorgoeus and spacious without being overwhelming... really amazing sounding in my opinion. Gives my vintage princeton reverb a run for it's money!

You can hear how much reverb I like in this video

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Good luck with the hunt!

Cheers,
Alex

JohnPerry · September 2015

I'm not that keen on the reverb in my vintage Princeton either

hotpickups · September 2015

Carr Sportsman seems to address all so called problems with the Princeton. Great reverb and worth a look at to if you like J20s albeit different sounding

JohnPerry;789993" said:
I'm not that keen on the reverb in my vintage Princeton either

JohnPerry · September 2015

I've got one. Truth is I much prefer pedal plate reverbs these days. But proper amp tube trem is hard to beat

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