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NGD - not quite a telecaster

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grungebobgrungebob Frets: 3165
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Picked this up earlier in the week. 
A 2001 Framus Renegade fitted with lollar pickups.  Originally designed with no pickguard and as a HH guitar but I think the previous owners mods suit it very well. 
Incredible build quality and plays and sounds amazing. The necks not too bad either. 



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  • OffsetOffset Frets: 9212
    I really like that, and WHAT a neck!  And it looks far better with that tort guard than it would have done without.
    Currently for sale: https://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/247085/pro-ject-essential-ii-turntable
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  • GoFishGoFish Frets: 1082
    I like that. I like it a lot. Framus make good stuff. HNGD!
    Ten years too late and still getting it wrong
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  • VoxmanVoxman Frets: 4400
    edited August 2023
    Very cool - one of the nicest non-tele 'tele's' I've seen - HNGD 3
    I started out with nothing..... but I've still got most of it left (Seasick Steve)
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  • JezWyndJezWynd Frets: 5837
    Offset said:
    I really like that, and WHAT a neck!  And it looks far better with that tort guard than it would have done without.
    Agreed. Great find.
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  • SchnozzSchnozz Frets: 1786
    Thank you for picking something different.
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  • flying_pieflying_pie Frets: 1767
    Are you sure that's not a rebranded PRS Myles Kennedy?

    Lovely looking guitar. Enjoy 
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  • grungebobgrungebob Frets: 3165
    flying_pie said:
    Are you sure that's not a rebranded PRS Myles Kennedy?

    Lovely looking guitar. Enjoy 
    Ha. I don’t think this one is anywhere near as ugly as the myles tele. 

    I bought it with the full intention of pulling the bridge pickup out and slapping a JB humbucker in but I’m going to give this lollar novel T a chance first. 
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  • grungebobgrungebob Frets: 3165
    edited September 2023
    Anyone else have experience of the lollar Novel T?  
    It sounds just a bit anemic to me, it’s missing something but I can’t tell what. Just have this impression it is, or perhaps there’s a trick to getting the most out of it?
    Think the JB will have to go in and if that doesn’t work it’s going on the chopping block. 
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  • BigPaulieBigPaulie Frets: 733
    Very tasty indeed!
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  • bluecatbluecat Frets: 429
    It is the best non Tele, Tele I have ever seen . Love the fretboard markers . ENJOY.
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  • pluckbuddypluckbuddy Frets: 237
    grungebob said:
    Anyone else have experience of the lollar Novel T?  
    It sounds just a bit anemic to me, it’s missing something but I can’t tell what. Just have this impression it is, or perhaps there’s a trick to getting the most out of it?
    Think the JB will have to go in and if that doesn’t work it’s going on the chopping block. 
    Does it have the right value pots for that kind of pickup? Just wondering if it's using the same electrics from before it was modded. They might be 500k or something and better suited to humbuckers.
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  • SassafrasSassafras Frets: 30023
    I didn't even know Framus still made instruments.
    I've got a very nice old Framus banjo.
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  • bluecatbluecat Frets: 429
    Wonderful Sass, love to see some pics.
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  • grungebobgrungebob Frets: 3165
    @pluckbuddy yeah good shout, it could be the pots are 500’s. There’s no markings on them , they look small pots but feel quality and in keeping with the rest of the guitar so I don’t know if I’d want to change them. 
    I don’t really understand guitar electronics but it has additional caps in there so maybe someone has added additional so the pickups see 250?
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  • bluecatbluecat Frets: 429
    Get it checked out with a tech if you do not know. I do not know guitar electrics either so I would have to go to a tech, or talk to ICBM or BillDL.
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  • pluckbuddypluckbuddy Frets: 237
    grungebob said:
    @pluckbuddy yeah good shout, it could be the pots are 500’s. There’s no markings on them , they look small pots but feel quality and in keeping with the rest of the guitar so I don’t know if I’d want to change them. 
    I don’t really understand guitar electronics but it has additional caps in there so maybe someone has added additional so the pickups see 250?
    Additional caps might be treble bleed caps? To reduce the value of the pots from 500k (if that's what they are) to something like 250k, you'd have to solder 220k or 270k resistors across the outside lugs.

    Might be worth getting a tech to look at it if you don't want to mess with that stuff yourself. On the other hand if the pickups sound way off what you want might be worth going straight to a pickup swap. A JB is going to have way more mids and power
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  • Dave_McDave_Mc Frets: 2022
    pluckbuddy said:
    grungebob said:
    @pluckbuddy yeah good shout, it could be the pots are 500’s. There’s no markings on them , they look small pots but feel quality and in keeping with the rest of the guitar so I don’t know if I’d want to change them. 
    I don’t really understand guitar electronics but it has additional caps in there so maybe someone has added additional so the pickups see 250?
    Additional caps might be treble bleed caps? To reduce the value of the pots from 500k (if that's what they are) to something like 250k, you'd have to solder 220k or 270k resistors across the outside lugs.

    Might be worth getting a tech to look at it if you don't want to mess with that stuff yourself. On the other hand if the pickups sound way off what you want might be worth going straight to a pickup swap. A JB is going to have way more mids and power
    470k I think

    I don't have the same Framus as that but mine didn't have a treble bleed as stock, it came stock with 50s wiring IIRC. The electronics on mine were all MEC, which I think are owned by Warwick/Framus.

    They used to have the schematics on the Framus site for a lot of the old models, but they seem to have disappeared unfortunately.

    Awesome guitar btw :D 
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  • pluckbuddypluckbuddy Frets: 237
    Dave_Mc said:

    470k I think
    Ah yes of course that is correct :)
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  • Dave_McDave_Mc Frets: 2022
    pluckbuddy said:
    Dave_Mc said:

    470k I think
    Ah yes of course that is correct :)
    LOL just pleased for once I knew something!
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