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  • BillDLBillDL Frets: 5615
    Even though you might never be inclined to do a setup on your guitar I think you might find the following video of interest as it explains the relationships between the different parts that can be adjusted or may need some remedy.



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  • BillDLBillDL Frets: 5615
    Is your guitar the Harley Benton CG-45E?
    https://www.thomann.de/gb/harley_benton_cg_45e_natural.htm
    It's remarkable what you can get for a minimum outlay these days.  Body bound back and front, bound neck, and under-saddle pickup and preamp for £66.  Who cares if it is laminated mahogany rather than solid woods, or if the fretboard is "roseacer" (heat-treated very hard maple) rather than pitted sub-standard rosewood, or if the rosette is a sticker, it's what it sounds like and feels like that counts the most.  I do happen to think it's a really nice looking wee guitar.
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  • MellishMellish Frets: 945
    @guitarjack66 ; I wouldn't recommend that you attempt your very first setup on a guitar you care about.

    Yes, it isn't difficult but, with respect, you could still mess it up, involving more money than a setup done by a good tech.

    If you want to have a go, there's plenty of beat up examples in s/h shops to have a go at, get your confidence going and *then* (if you want) try to do a setup on a guitar you care about :) 
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  • MellishMellish Frets: 945
    That video posted by @BillDL, though, explains very well the steps involved :) 
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  • guitarjack66guitarjack66 Frets: 1397
    BillDL said:
    Is your guitar the Harley Benton CG-45E?
    https://www.thomann.de/gb/harley_benton_cg_45e_natural.htm
    It's remarkable what you can get for a minimum outlay these days.  Body bound back and front, bound neck, and under-saddle pickup and preamp for £66.  Who cares if it is laminated mahogany rather than solid woods, or if the fretboard is "roseacer" (heat-treated very hard maple) rather than pitted sub-standard rosewood, or if the rosette is a sticker, it's what it sounds like and feels like that counts the most.  I do happen to think it's a really nice looking wee guitar.
    That's the baby,Bill. Well worth less than 80 pounds stirling all in.
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  • bertiebertie Frets: 12145
    Thomann said:

    • String gauges: .010 "- .047"
    wow - that may account why the action is a bit higher 
    just because you don't, doesn't mean you can't
     just because you do, doesn't mean you should.
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  • guitarjack66guitarjack66 Frets: 1397
    bertie said:
    Thomann said:

    • String gauges: .010 "- .047"
    wow - that may account why the action is a bit higher 
    Funnily enough,I thought this exact thought today while musing over the set up problems. I had a Yamaha APX 3/4 sized guitar and got my tech to set it up. He wouldn't let me put 10s on them and insisted I keep the 11s or 12s gauge on them. I recalled this today once again. I have learned a lot from my tech so this opened my eyes on string tension and specs.
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  • ToneControlToneControl Frets: 11438
    £74
    That was about the price of the cheapest imported K guitars in 1980-1982

    To add perspective, I had a one week summer job on £1 an hour in 1983


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  • bertiebertie Frets: 12145
    guitarjack66 said:
    bertie said:
    Thomann said:

    • String gauges: .010 "- .047"
    wow - that may account why the action is a bit higher 
    Funnily enough,I thought this exact thought today while musing over the set up problems. I had a Yamaha APX 3/4 sized guitar and got my tech to set it up. He wouldn't let me put 10s on them and insisted I keep the 11s or 12s gauge on them. I recalled this today once again. I have learned a lot from my tech so this opened my eyes on string tension and specs.
    lower gauge = lower tension = bigger amplitude  :) 
    just because you don't, doesn't mean you can't
     just because you do, doesn't mean you should.
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