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Sound ports - My experiences

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ToneControlToneControl Frets: 11438
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Well this has been a long time coming

I bought a classical with a sound port, very impressive, slightly boomy.


The extra hole lets some sound come up to your ears instead of all being fired out to the audience or the empty room

I tried an acoustic with one, also impressed.
I tried a small body with a large one made by an English luthier, impressive but it was a large hole and very boomy at some frequencies


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  • ToneControlToneControl Frets: 11438
    Next I got Avalon to put a smaller port (oval shaped) into my Avalon A1-20
    It did everything I wanted

    Then my next guitar was custom-made by Avalon with a decorated soundport - a Triquetra:



    This also sounded exactly the way I wanted
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  • ToneControlToneControl Frets: 11438
    In a bold move, I decided to send all my Avalons to be ported

    I had a delivery yesterday:


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  • brucegillbrucegill Frets: 643
    They’ve done a lovely job! Hope your enjoying them all. 
    Feedback here: https://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/61319/brucegill#latest
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  • mgawmgaw Frets: 4979
    does it change the original sound?  
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  • Revolting1Revolting1 Frets: 295

    Brave indeed,

    Have you noticed any change in tone , projection  or volume from front soundhole in the ones modified?

    Are you happy with them?
    When logic and proportion
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  • ToneControlToneControl Frets: 11438
    mgaw said:
    does it change the original sound?  
    not as far as I can tell, we've had a few people check. Previous posts on other forums say it leaves the sound out front unchanged, or slightly improves it
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    Revolting1 said:

    Brave indeed,

    Have you noticed any change in tone , projection  or volume from front soundhole in the ones modified?

    Are you happy with them?
    no difference out front AFAIK

    they sound way better as the player playing them
    Unlike any other mod, you can do repeated A/B tests by putting something over the hole for a minute or two
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  • ToneControlToneControl Frets: 11438
    brucegill said:
    They’ve done a lovely job! Hope your enjoying them all. 
    all great, very happy with this mod
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  • mgawmgaw Frets: 4979
    you like Avalon guitars then :)
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  • ToneControlToneControl Frets: 11438
    edited December 2019
    mgaw said:
    you like Avalon guitars then
    yep
    Boutique guitars, made in the UK and sold for much less than other brands at the same quality level
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  • ToneControlToneControl Frets: 11438
    I'm really glad I made this decision, these guitars all sound so much better to me when I'm playing them now
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  • DulcetJonesDulcetJones Frets: 515
    ToneControl said:

    they sound way better as the player playing them

    Whoa, I've been looking for something like that for a long time......,  but seriously, they look great.

    “Theory is something that is written down after the music has been made so we can explain it to others”– Levi Clay


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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 69426
    Excellent solution for all those electro-acoustics with obsolete preamps that can't be repaired or replaced when they die...

    ;)

    Seriously, it looks like they've done a very nice job of them. I'm still a little concerned by the lack of binding or other protection for the exposed edges of the hole, but time will tell (and most likely prove me wrong...).

    And I really would consider it as a possibility for both fixing and potentially improving an old electro with a dead preamp.

    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski

    "Just because I don't care, doesn't mean I don't understand." - Homer Simpson

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  • ToneControlToneControl Frets: 11438
    ICBM said:
    Excellent solution for all those electro-acoustics with obsolete preamps that can't be repaired or replaced when they die...

    ;)

    Seriously, it looks like they've done a very nice job of them. I'm still a little concerned by the lack of binding or other protection for the exposed edges of the hole, but time will tell (and most likely prove me wrong...).

    And I really would consider it as a possibility for both fixing and potentially improving an old electro with a dead preamp.
    the first photo is of a classical from Yulong Guo, Originally made with no other binding on the hole, he's been making these for years, and it's a pricey model, that's real marquetry around the sound hole, so he obviously was not short of time.

    Avalon initially had the same concern, but went with the plain approach in the end for the conversions.

    The new custom Avalon allowed me to get one made with the full-on approach


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  • hollywoodroxhollywoodrox Frets: 3605
    Felixstowe is pretty sound , Grimsby is interesting but full of psychopaths . Liverpool is really sound 
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  • GTCGTC Frets: 241
    I've got one in my custom Brook Taw and agree it does provide an additional sound dimension for the player. Not so great that I would consider retrofitting other guitars though.
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  • ToneControlToneControl Frets: 11438
    GTC said:
    I've got one in my custom Brook Taw and agree it does provide an additional sound dimension for the player. Not so great that I would consider retrofitting other guitars though.
    what size is it?
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  • GTCGTC Frets: 241
    ToneControl said:
    what size is it?
    Approx 3" x 1 1/4" ellipse
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  • ToneControlToneControl Frets: 11438
    Mine are about 40mm x 25mm
    It seems like about the right compromise, but I did notice a little more mids on on larger guitar
    I'd think about 35mm x 22mm next time I think
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