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Stella by Harmony Parlor Guitar - Does anyone else here have one?

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LesbianWithAGunLesbianWithAGun Frets: 785
edited January 2018 in Acoustics
I just bought a 1951 Stella by Harmony on Reverb, it's coming from New York City; It's a 1950's but it's an early 1950's, and hasn't got a steel reinforced neck.


(What is that, is that an NFL sticker)?..




Is on its way.

By coincidence in Croydon I got a 1950's Catania Carmelo today (like an Italian parlor guitar I've never heard of before that seems rare).
I might keep it, but, since I feel like I got a good deal on that one, my instinct/reaction was to list it as soon as I found out, but I may decide it's not for sale, depending how it feels next to this Harmony I've been jonesing for.
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  • Has anybody on here played one of these before?


    This video sounds good...

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  • It's harder to find examples of the one I got without a truss rod/steel reinforced neck as it's called, but every video I have shared, is one I found of the one that's coming.
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  • LesbianWithAGunLesbianWithAGun Frets: 785
    edited January 2018
    My heart sank a little when I found out they're cheap guitars, my heart grew a little when I found out they were rare, my heart sank a little when I found out that mine wasn't... My heart grew a little at the sound, the tone and the even its twang, my heart sank a little when I summed that the p+p is going to eat up what profit if any I could maybe make from this guitar, my heart grew when I remembered its excellent condition...

    Playing on my Gibson R7 Les Paul after a night with a Catania Carmelo 'Italian parlor guitar/seems rare' that I acquired yesterday and coming back to my everyday player like Buckethead aside; I recommend these parlor guitars (like the others who also say this) for noodling and song writing...
    I mean, I had to very quickly slow my self down  because I'm not trying to be Herman Li  here, which was fun going up and down my R7 bending away, and after a night with a parlor guitar on your very nice everyday player - when you slow yourself down, it's like 'in tune with the bend - It's like one with Hendrix j/k but the slow blues bends are there in your playing and, I find way more control; like my body had a tune up with the ins and outs of guitar/sound/and tone...

    A book I have, love, read, and have read it 10 years ago... (So for me this is old knowledge)... but 
    Zen Guitar by Philip Toshio Sudo
    Zen Guitar, a very wise book by Philip Tosho ISBN: 9781508246084 originally published in 1997 says:
    'There are many ways to play a single note.'

    I am reminded of that this morning.  
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  • LesbianWithAGunLesbianWithAGun Frets: 785
    edited January 2018
    Yay!..

    I just got off the phone with Vintage & Rare of Bath (who have the only other Harmony parlor not in private hands that I can find in the UK) who quite honestly told me when comparing what I've got coming to a Martin...
    They said... Yes... It is a cheap guitar (my Stella by Harmony that's coming) compared to a Martin...
    But it's all about what tone do you want? and that even though it's cheap, it's got that 'twang' as I call it/that tone, then the guy there named a bunch of blues guitarists who's worked with them, and this lifts my spirits tremendously after finding out last night from YouTube that they're cheap guitars.
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  • LesbianWithAGunLesbianWithAGun Frets: 785
    edited January 2018
    I just found and saw this.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stella_(guitar)
    I was pleased to see a picture of one like the one that's coming on its Wikipedia page.

    And pleased to see the list of notable players contain names I've heard of/like too.
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  • birdobirdo Frets: 24
    edited January 2018
    Looks great . These are suppose to have a real mojo about them. Think they did some with a plastic fret board as well.
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  • StrangefanStrangefan Frets: 5820
    Not sure whether  i should respond to this as you seems to be having a decent enough convo with yourself  :D :D :D 
    They are good guitars for the delta/blues etc as they can be quite boxy in tone, but if that's the tone you're after you cant go wrong with a Stella, 
    They may be cheap but were hand made in the US, so and not made anymore so they will probably start to rise in price in the future.
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  • SassafrasSassafras Frets: 30023
    Not a Stella but I've got a very old Harmony slightly larger than parlour sized guitar, it's all solid wood and very nice. Not sure I'd compare it to the best Martin can produce but it sounds lovely.
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  • I wouldn't mind seeing/playing a Stella from the pre Harmony/Oscar Schmidt Company days when they came out of Jersey City (opposed to Chicago) just to see what one of those would be like. 
     
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  • LesbianWithAGunLesbianWithAGun Frets: 785
    edited January 2018
    Sassafras said:
    Not a Stella but I've got a very old Harmony slightly larger than parlour sized guitar, it's all solid wood and very nice. Not sure I'd compare it to the best Martin can produce but it sounds lovely.
    When talking Martin Vs. Harmony with Vintage & Rare of Bath over the phone, they said (about their parlor guitars at least) - said,
    "The Martin sounded like a middle class white boy playing the blues."
    "And the Stella by Harmony might be a cheap guitar, but, it's got that tone..."
    Then he named a bunch of famous blues musicians who used them.
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  • LesbianWithAGunLesbianWithAGun Frets: 785
    edited January 2018
    Not sure whether  i should respond to this as you seems to be having a decent enough convo with yourself  D D D 
    They are good guitars for the delta/blues etc as they can be quite boxy in tone, but if that's the tone you're after you cant go wrong with a Stella, 
    They may be cheap but were hand made in the US, so and not made anymore so they will probably start to rise in price in the future.
    I can assure you, the closest I have in me to the Delta is the Sound of Bow Bells  starting at Balham, Guv'.
    That's thanks to my proximity in Thornton Heath, my heritage/my father, bless him.
    He's a well to do man who can talk professional and is a writing/entertainer; but he came from 1939 pre war Hoxton and the family moved from there to Battersea in that whole war and my Dad's a Battersea lad who loves his music from Mario Lanza, Johnny Cash, Frank Sinatra etc... My father's musical influences.
    As a teenager, with me and my guitar playing, my father, I asked him to manage my career, he had me learning Ghost Riders in the Sky and suggested I learn C&W and showed me different covers, cover after cover. I went to hospital for a month, I called it Rehab, they called it Bipolar, that was 2005, they gave me my Kay under lock and key for an hour a day, and had me on one on one lest I off myself (I guess, IDK), was only 18.. And my father made me a mix tape of songs to play which included Mario Lanza singing the blues...
    Cool man my Dad, am lucky.


    I'm going to be playing Welcome to the Ghetto (probably/maybe/most likely), If There Was a God, Flicking the Bean and anything else my crazy self/A comes up with, maybe the Thornton Heath Blues ? j/k. bleep_bloop 
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  • LewyLewy Frets: 3795
    edited January 2018
    "The Martin sounded like a middle class white boy playing the blues."
    "And the Stella by Harmony might be a cheap guitar, but, it's got that tone..."
    Then he named a bunch of famous blues musicians who used them.
    Didn’t know what he was talking about then because all the notable country blues players who played Stellas played Oscar Schmidt ones not Harmonies. The most celebrated Stella players such as Leadbelly, Blind Lemon Jefferson, Charley Patton and Blind Blake were either dead or had finished their pre-war recording careers before Harmony bought the company.
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  • It left FedEx in Memphis, TN an hour ago...
    This was taken a couple of minutes ago...
    Flying over KY/OH...


    Location
    1/19/2018 - Friday
    5:00 amDeparted FedEx locationMEMPHIS, TN
    4:54 amIn transitMEMPHIS, TN
    1/18/2018 - Thursday
    4:30 pmIn transitMEMPHIS, TN
    10:00 amArrived at FedEx locationMEMPHIS, TN
    8:40 amDeparted FedEx locationNEWARK, NJ
    2:28 amDeparted FedEx locationNEWARK, NJ
    12:42 amArrived at FedEx locationNEWARK, NJ
    12:02 amLeft FedEx origin facilityNEW YORK, NY
    1/17/2018 - Wednesday
    4:43 pmPicked upNEW YORK, NY
    1:34 pmShipment information sent to FedEx
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  • LesbianWithAGunLesbianWithAGun Frets: 785
    edited January 2018
    You're right @Lewy - Robert Johnson had a Stella, but died before Harmony bought Stella, no?
    ...
    Kurt Cobain used a broken 12 string Stella Harmony with 5 strings and recorded Polly which is on Nevermind, Elvis Presley, so far, is the only guy I see who's got one like the one that's coming, I believe. IDK... He seemed alright I guess..
    Think he owned one or used one in a film or something, but it's a Stella by Harmony parlor without a steel reinforced neck. Same colour too and not the rarer colour I wanted.

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  • LesbianWithAGunLesbianWithAGun Frets: 785
    edited January 2018
    Might try and sell it to Cliff Richard lol j/k... but it should be a nice guitar...
    I can't wait, tbh.

    How do I find the right people to find Cliff Richard's people so I could even make invitation to treat for this parlor... IDK.
    There's no connection to Elvis other than he used one, but, IDK, I'm only fooling/funning when thinking about trying to sell it to Cliff Richard (for a fair price), I don't want to rip nobody off, but I do love sourcing nice guitars...
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  • LesbianWithAGunLesbianWithAGun Frets: 785
    edited January 2018
    5 am take off in January local time to 6 pm landing local time...
    Wow..
    In January, I'm thinking, it was dark this morning for it when it took off and it's going to be dark again tonight when it lands...
    Crazy.
    That flight's getting what little if any daylight now? in mid air.

    That random thought just occurred.
    That random thought still blew me back enough to mention it here though.
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  • KKJaleKKJale Frets: 967
    edited January 2018
    https://i.imgur.com/XEWSGLE.jpg

    (Audrey Hepburn 1961)
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  • LesbianWithAGunLesbianWithAGun Frets: 785
    edited January 2018
    KKJale said:
    https://i.imgur.com/XEWSGLE.jpg

    (Audrey Hepburn 1961)
    Bridge, inlays and lack of scratchplate looks different than mine, another model, maybe? IDK.
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  • LewyLewy Frets: 3795
    KKJale said:
    https://i.imgur.com/XEWSGLE.jpg

    (Audrey Hepburn 1961)
    Bridge, inlays and lack of scratchplate looks different than mine, another model, maybe? IDK.
    3/4 size H929
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  • LesbianWithAGunLesbianWithAGun Frets: 785
    edited January 2018
    I've got my eyes on a 12 string Stella by Harmony and I'm in the market for a decent 12 string...
    The only thing stopping me (and it's a big thing) is; I don't love the sound of them/their tone.
    I just have to remind myself what they sound like to stop myself from getting it.
    https://reverb.com/item/9260114-nirvana-1969-harmony-stella-h913-12-string-pro-setup-new-strings-vintage-usa-kay-silvertone

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  • I must confess, I only wanted the make and model I ordered/am waiting for; because of people playing them on social media.

    ...

    I even paid for it then post purchase, found out famous musicians worked with these...
    It's kinda cool to know, but me, I like that tone.

    So me not liking the 12 String Stella is why it's not my 12 String Buy.
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  • jonnyburgojonnyburgo Frets: 11799
    Image result for crumb stoned again

    "OUR TOSSPOT"
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  • Spoiler:

    Date/Time
    ActivityLocation
    1/22/2018 - Monday
    2:28 pmDeliveredTHORNTON HEATH GB
    7:16 amOn FedEx vehicle for deliveryCRAYFORD GB
    3:56 amAt local FedEx facilityCRAYFORD GB
    1/21/2018 - Sunday
    9:47 pmDeparted FedEx locationSOUTHERN SORT GB
    1/20/2018 - Saturday
    11:40 pmInternational shipment release - ImportSTANSTED GB
    11:40 pmIn transitSTANSTED GB
    Package available for clearance
    1/19/2018 - Friday
    6:22 pmAt destination sort facilitySTANSTED GB
    5:00 amDeparted FedEx locationMEMPHIS, TN
    4:54 amIn transitMEMPHIS, TN
    1/18/2018 - Thursday
    4:30 pmIn transitMEMPHIS, TN
    10:00 amArrived at FedEx locationMEMPHIS, TN
    8:40 amDeparted FedEx locationNEWARK, NJ
    2:28 amDeparted FedEx locationNEWARK, NJ
    12:42 amArrived at FedEx locationNEWARK, NJ
    12:02 amLeft FedEx origin facilityNEW YORK, NY
    1/17/2018 - Wednesday
    4:43 pmPicked upNEW YORK, NY
    1:34 pmShipment information sent to FedEx

    Sounds like this:



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  • AliGorieAliGorie Frets: 308



    wow what a sound everyone should have a guitar that sounds like this - lookin forward to hearing u'r chops on this 12er
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  • LewyLewy Frets: 3795
    AliGorie said:



    wow what a sound everyone should have a guitar that sounds like this - lookin forward to hearing u'r chops on this 12er
    Just goes to show, in the right hands even a cheap guitar can sound.....

    .......like a fire in a pet shop....
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  • LesbianWithAGunLesbianWithAGun Frets: 785
    edited January 2018
    It's like cheap and nasty meets decent, an odd pairing but one I have.
    Looks cool though.
     
    But it's a parlor, therefore; it's very cool to noodle on. This Harmony is great at identifying notes with/noodle on and... I'm writing, but since it's cheap and nasty, I have like 1 riff... 
    This guitar has been teaching me songs today by ear. It's just practising them but this guitar is good at doing that whatever genre.
    Playing my everyday player, after a day of playing on Stella by Harmony, is meaner.
    I mean, it's more aggressive but not beating up the guitar, it's still calm/cool/fun to play but the meaness is there and it's in the notes/the rhythm, after you've been on a Stella, by Harmony for close to 9 hours, 'give or take'  coming back to my everyday was meaner. - I like that.

    Bought my self a parlor this week which was a surprise find, and it's a nice guitar, sounds like this...



    but with this guitar, I wrote like 10 riffs and playing it/I'm writing on it, it's great..
    Play on that all day, and you're like Buckethead upon your return to your everyday player...

    Probably because it's mahogany *citation needed  vs plywood though. But Stella by Harmony guitar makes your guitar playing sound meaner?! - if that's possible, and I don't mean hitting the hell out of your everyday guitar and if your everyday player's a keeper/nice/heaven to play, it's all going to be good, so when I say meaner, I mean meaner in sound and in tone and in how you approach the guitar I guess, what it does for your guitar playing is very cool though.
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  • SassafrasSassafras Frets: 30023
    It's like cheap and nasty meets decent, an odd pairing but one I have.
    Looks cool though.
     
    But it's a parlor, therefore; it's very cool to noodle on. This Harmony is great at identifying notes with/noodle on and... I'm writing, but since it's cheap and nasty, I have like 1 riff... 
    This guitar has been teaching me songs today by ear. It's just practising them but this guitar is good at doing that whatever genre.
    Playing my everyday player, after a day of playing on Stella by Harmony, is meaner.
    I mean, it's more aggressive but not beating up the guitar, it's still calm/cool/fun to play but the meaness is there and it's in the notes/the rhythm, after you've been on a Stella, by Harmony for close to 9 hours, 'give or take'  coming back to my everyday was meaner. - I like that.

    Bought my self a parlor this week which was a surprise find, and it's a nice guitar, sounds like this...



    but with this guitar, I wrote like 10 riffs and playing it/I'm writing on it, it's great..
    Play on that all day, and you're like Buckethead upon your return to your everyday player...

    Probably because it's mahogany *citation needed  vs plywood though. But Stella by Harmony guitar makes your guitar playing sound meaner?! - if that's possible, and I don't mean hitting the hell out of your everyday guitar and if your everyday player's a keeper/nice/heaven to play, it's all going to be good, so when I say meaner, I mean meaner in sound and in tone and in how you approach the guitar I guess, what it does for your guitar playing is very cool though.
    Needs a strap.
     :) 
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  • LesbianWithAGunLesbianWithAGun Frets: 785
    edited January 2018
    I bought a capo tonight for it... as far as I'm concerned its fixed any issues I had with its high action...

    Also, like Slash sold me a Gibson Les Paul, a set of pickups and even an amp, this girl sold me a Stella by Harmony without a truss rod and she even sold me my first capo...




    It was this video/sound which made me pick what model/type of Harmony parlor to get.
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