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Good quality sub-£2,000 acoustic with Fishman Aura or similar?

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imalrightjackimalrightjack Frets: 3503
edited August 2017 in Acoustics
Hi,

Toying with picking up a new acoustic. I had a Martin a few years back with the Fishman Aura system which I loved as it sounded great through a PA or direct recording. 

Any suggestions?

Thanks!
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 69426
    Get any nice acoustic, have it fitted with a simple unpreamped undersaddle piezo - eg a Fishman AG094 - and an endpin jack, and buy a Fishman Aura pedal. (The Aura works best from a plain UST.)

    It will be a better acoustic for the money, it will never suffer from built-in obsolescence or reliability problems, and if you do want to upgrade or need to replace the Aura in a few years' time with whatever the future's better-sounding equivalent is, you can very easily, without altering the guitar…

    I've said all this before, I know :).

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  • Interesting, @ICBM,  although I think the right guitar would last me a long time. I should have kept the Martin...
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  • danishbacondanishbacon Frets: 2588
    Furch/Stonebridge - by a mile. Look at schertler m ag6 + condenser mic. 
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  • @danishbacon and @crunchman Can you educate me some more on Furch?
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  • crunchmancrunchman Frets: 10961
    @danishbacon and @crunchman Can you educate me some more on Furch?
    Made in what used to be Czechoslovakia (can't remember which bit).  There is a history of instrument making and crafts there.  They are not the only quality guitar makers from that part of the world (check out Rosawood but they tend to be more expensive).

    Furch guitars have been sold under the Stonebridge brand as well - this may have been an attempt to come up with a name that would sound better in the English speaking world, but they are the same guitars.

    The majority of Furch guitars that I've come across are based on the classic Martin designs.  They are very responsive and possibly not as heavily braced as some other guitars.  I have heard of tops bellying up with very heavy strings.  If you want to use 13s, then you might want to look elsewhere.

    I've owned two (still have one of them), as well as 3 Martins (still have 2).  If you have 3 grand plus to spend on one of the really high end Martins, then they are very hard to beat, but in the sub 2000 range, my experience is that a Furch will normally sound a lot better than a Martin of the same price.

    Wages in Eastern Europe are a lot less than wages in the US, and they are inside the EU so there is no import duty, so it makes sense that they can build good guitars more cheaply.  Martin prices aren't helped in the UK by their distributor either.  At one point, you could get one of the the D18 variants £300 cheaper in Germany than here.

    A lot of Furch guitars do have a leopard print scratchplate that might not appeal to all.  You can get them with other colours though.
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  • Thanks, @crunchman !
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  • musicman100musicman100 Frets: 1644
    edited August 2017
    You could get a used Collings for less that 2000 Which would blow a furch away in every way. 
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  • crunchmancrunchman Frets: 10961
    You could get a used Collings for less that 2000 Which would blow a furch away in every way. 
    Collings are very well built, but they don't blow me away sound wise.  Given my experience of both, I'd generally prefer a Furch.
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  • musicman100musicman100 Frets: 1644
    crunchman said:
    You could get a used Collings for less that 2000 Which would blow a furch away in every way. 
    Collings are very well built, but they don't blow me away sound wise.  Given my experience of both, I'd generally prefer a Furch.
    It's all subjective. But I would says Collings are in a completely different league 
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 69426
    I've never played a Furch, but I have played several Collings. On that basis I would try a Furch :).

    I've never played a Collings I liked - perfectly made and totally characterless in my opinion.

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