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LewyLewy Frets: 3795
edited January 2017 in Acoustics
Martin getting into the relicing biz....




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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 24559
    *sucks in through teeth*
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  • FelineGuitarsFelineGuitars Frets: 10901
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    They could have done with this a while back so they didn't lend a vintage guitar to The Hateful 8

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  • octatonicoctatonic Frets: 33263
    I don't think it will split opinion that much.
    James Richmond

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  • AliGorieAliGorie Frets: 308
    yeah, saw these snakeoil sellers in the video here - cringe -


    nice little 000 - but that's ALL it is, one of the finest sounding 000's I've heard (on the net) is a fairly new Circa - non traditional mapel b/s and no one claims it's 'Authentically' a vintage vibe - it's a new build - good guitar.

    note that in u'r vid Lewy they are actually saying that new guitars are - not desirable - all those sharp corners and so on


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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 69426
    FelineGuitars said:
    They could have done with this a while back so they didn't lend a vintage guitar to The Hateful 8
    Coffee in keyboard…

    :)

    Otherwise, just no.

    Why bother anyway? Just lend your new guitar to a folkie for a couple of months.

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  • DesVegasDesVegas Frets: 4389
    My opinion is now split, thanks OP
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  • Winny_PoohWinny_Pooh Frets: 7202
    Willie Nelson's "trigger" re-issue to be announced shortly at $8,999
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  • LewyLewy Frets: 3795
    edited January 2017
    I quite like relicing on electric guitars...I guess I think there's something inherently facile about electrics that make me on board with the idea that it's just a cool finish option. For some reason the same thing on a D28 brings out a visceral negative reaction though. 

    I also think that its an awful lot of effort for something that is still going to look wrong - as the light catches the top, you'll see that it doesn't have 80 years worth of distortion so if you've ever spent any time lovingly gazing at a real herringbone then it will immediately look like a phony.

    Not that I would buy a new (relic'd or otherwise) '37 Authentic D28 because they seem disproportionately prone to needing early-in-life repair work and Martin's warranty terms are not great in the UK (and have worsened in the US too). 


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  • TimmyOTimmyO Frets: 6976
    It's absolutely true that old guitars have a sort of mojo about the way they look - it's just that over the years a looking at (electric) relics that I have only ever seen 1 (one !) that looked mojo-tastic - the rest looked reliced. And that's a look that has zero mojo. 
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  • mgawmgaw Frets: 4979
    more so than electrics the real value of age on an acoustic is played in tone....what a load of fucking bollocks that video was
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  • axisusaxisus Frets: 27656
    I have no problem if they want to do that and charge more. Not saying I'd buy one though. Some people need to get over themselves with the whole ageing thing.
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  • richardhomerrichardhomer Frets: 24339
    Is it me, or did the Authentic D28 sound decidedly 'ordinary'?

    Personally I'd rather buy a well played used one - playing them does alter the tone - putting a stained finish on the top won't give you that....
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  • LewyLewy Frets: 3795
    richardhomer said:
    Is it me, or did the Authentic D28 sound decidedly 'ordinary'?

    Personally I'd rather buy a well played used one - playing them does alter the tone - putting a stained finish on the top won't give you that....
    It did - although it can only respond to how it's played, which was also decidedly ordinary.


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  • thebreezethebreeze Frets: 2727
    Did any of you Geezas manage to watch all 14 minutes all the way through? Be honest.

    "It looks really old"

    "Yep it took a long time"

    "It has that old feel"

    "You can't rush these things"

    "It's just really cool the way it looks aged"

    Snooze.  I think I know less about relic'ing acoustics than I did before I watched the video.
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  • LewyLewy Frets: 3795
    thebreeze said:
    Did any of you Geezas manage to watch all 14 minutes all the way through? Be honest.

    "It looks really old"

    "Yep it took a long time"

    "It has that old feel"

    "You can't rush these things"

    "It's just really cool the way it looks aged"

    Snooze.  I think I know less about relic'ing acoustics than I did before I watched the video.
    I did soldier on but only because I assumed someone was going to play the fucking thing at some point ... and then it got 8 seconds of lacklustre flappy strumming. Gah!
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 24559
    Lewy said:
    and then it got 8 seconds of lacklustre flappy strumming.
    Sometimes that's all it takes ;)
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  • AliGorieAliGorie Frets: 308

    richardhomer said:
    Is it me, or did the Authentic D28 sound decidedly 'ordinary'?

    Personally I'd rather buy a well played used one - playing them does alter the tone - putting a stained finish on the top won't give you that....
    I went outa my way to try an Authentic D28 - after all the booha over the pond - BIG disappointment - nothing there -
    and yeah - those salesmen guys - u wouldn't by a used car from them B)
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  • LewyLewy Frets: 3795
    AliGorie said:
    I went outa my way to try an Authentic D28 - after all the booha over the pond - BIG disappointment - nothing there -
    and yeah - those salesmen guys - u wouldn't by a used car from them B)
    Well would it actually BE used or would it be a
    new one made to look that way? 
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  • AliGorieAliGorie Frets: 308
    ah Lewy  sorry it was a 'pretty' one £6k IIRC - meh
    I checked the strings - ok, just a big something missing from the guit, left scratching my head at what all that fuss was about.
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  • LewyLewy Frets: 3795
    edited January 2017
    AliGorie said:
    ah Lewy  sorry it was a 'pretty' one £6k IIRC - meh
    I checked the strings - ok, just a big something missing from the guit, left scratching my head at what all that fuss was about.
    Was joking about the used car comment...not
    you trying a D28 Authentic :)
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  • MagicPigDetectiveMagicPigDetective Frets: 2863
    Who fancies a D-200 Deluxe? Yours for only $150,000  :o
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  • LewyLewy Frets: 3795
    MagicPigDetective said:
    Who fancies a D-200 Deluxe? Yours for only $150,000  :o
    Haha no thanks but I really like the look of the case it comes in....
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  • StrangefanStrangefan Frets: 5820
    edited January 2017
    . Duplicate post
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    Boggled,  my mind is truly boggled,  the whole reason this feels daft us because an acoustic guitar, gets better with age, everything mellows and you grow an infinity with the guitar, acoustics are easier to damage already so this to me is putting it on the back foot even before its left the factory.

    you can give a relic solid body new hardware and it will sound different, so it's purely an aesthetic thing but here, you have none of that, and in 15 years time it will just look battered. 

    Silly. 
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