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Taylor heel joint coming adrift

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bandmaster188bandmaster188 Frets: 385
edited August 2020 in Acoustics
Hi folks, just at my bro in laws and he’s got a taylor 110. As per photos, the heel joint is coming apart and not sure why. It’s not been left near a heat source. Just wondering what would be involved to repair this and how much .
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  • RolandRoland Frets: 8108
    Most Taylor’s of the age have bolt on necks. There’s a label on the inside covering the bolt heads. They just need to be tightened. Have a read here: http://www.frets.com/FretsPages/Luthier/Technique/Guitar/NeckReset/TaylorReset/taylorreset.html
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  • moremore Frets: 222
    The  heel  is normally  a block of wood,glued onto the neck and shaped . On the best guitars  the heel block  is an upside  L shape, making the join stronger .  It looks to me as if the heal block  is coming apart. If this  is true  the neck will need to be removed so it can be glued back together agine .  
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 69426
    Roland said:
    Most Taylor’s of the age have bolt on necks. There’s a label on the inside covering the bolt heads. They just need to be tightened.
    I assume the pics were added later .

    Is that a split at the glue joint, or a clean break in a solid heel? Taylors are made both ways depending on the model. It's hard to tell in the pic but it looks more like a break in solid wood to me - if so, that's actually easier to fix (perhaps counterintuitively) since you don't need to worry about old glue residue interfering with the new glue.

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  • bandmaster188bandmaster188 Frets: 385

    It looks to me to be  a glued heel joint that has separated as it’s a clean split around the heel. Although I could be wrong. But was thinking the neck would need to be removed and joint cleaned and re-glued. I’ll add some extra pics as I’m still with the guitar.
    https://i.imgur.com/PRQjoKI.jpg
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  • RolandRoland Frets: 8108
    edited August 2020
    ICBM said:
    Roland said:
    Most Taylor’s of the age have bolt on necks. There’s a label on the inside covering the bolt heads. They just need to be tightened.
    I assume the pics were added later .
    No, they didn’t display on my ipad
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  • danishbacondanishbacon Frets: 2588
    I don't know what Taylor's warranty (and irrespective if bought used) I'd get in contact with them before undertaking a repair, they may put it right.
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  • TrevinDevonTrevinDevon Frets: 28
    That's definitely a parted joint rather than a split in the wood. Apart from the repair, of course, it would be good to know the cause. Taylor might help there too. They've probably seen this before.
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 69426
    Yes, when you see it from the other side there's a more obvious change in the wood grain.

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  • bandmaster188bandmaster188 Frets: 385
    Cheers all!
    i’ll get him to contact Taylor and see what they say. Think the guitar is approx 8 years old so well out of warranty. 
    Any ideas of cost to carry out this kind of repair?
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