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Braz Rosewood Martin From 1971?

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What say you guys? I’ve read about possible 1970 examples but Martin seemed to be using Indian rosewood exclusively from 1970 onwards...

I used to have a ‘67 D-28 which I regret selling so would be keen on this if it’s a genuine anomaly with Brazilian.
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  • Jez6345789Jez6345789 Frets: 1652
    Certainly not expert enough to advise
    Probably best send an email and a picture to the Nazareth boys also you can see the serial so they be able to shed some light. 

    All that said I seem to recall that by then they were fairly heavily build and people do have the bracing lightened or so the article I read said. LOL

    but may be a nice find

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  • tone1tone1 Frets: 4930
    Birth year for me...June if anyone fancies buying me a pressie  :)
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  • jimmyguitarjimmyguitar Frets: 2442
    tone1 said:
    Birth year for me...June if anyone fancies buying me a pressie  :)
    Hands off!  ;)
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  • tone1tone1 Frets: 4930
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    Lol.... Dibs then..You’ve always got such good taste Jimmy! 
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  • KKJaleKKJale Frets: 967
    Not an expert either. It's a nice-looking colour, but that grain sort of mutters "Indian" to me. I'm just not seeing any of the spider-webbing or slight slabbiness of a fair amount of late-period Martin Brazilian, there's zero close-ups of the sides, and it's about 4000 guitars away from the supposed cut-off point. Anyway, at that price they're not exactly showing confidence in their hand. 
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  • mgawmgaw Frets: 4979
    I would be reasonably confident in saying that was Indian Rosewood...
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  • Jez6345789Jez6345789 Frets: 1652
    Never say Never but I just did a google image search and it certainly looks lesss likely. 
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  • Andy79Andy79 Frets: 881
    I think it’s pushing it to say it’s Brazilan as late at ‘71. Rare bird if it is. A clue maybe to ask if it has the small maple bridge plate or larger rosewood one. 
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 69426
    Looks like Indian to me, very similar to my '71 D12-35.

    There would be absolutely no reason for Martin to hold back a Brazilian rosewood back & sides set and then use it on as ordinary a model as a standard D-28... a D-45, just possibly.

    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski

    "Just because I don't care, doesn't mean I don't understand." - Homer Simpson

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  • Andy79Andy79 Frets: 881
    ICBM said:
    Looks like Indian to me, very similar to my '71 D12-35.

    There would be absolutely no reason for Martin to hold back a Brazilian rosewood back & sides set and then use it on as ordinary a model as a standard D-28... a D-45, just possibly.
    That makes the most sense to me
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  • earwighoneyearwighoney Frets: 3380
    I'd say that's Indian RW, but very nice IRW. 
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  • WarblingtonWarblington Frets: 104
    It would be interesting to see some photos of the sides.The nearest you get is the figuring that can be seen on the inside in the serial number picture."Strongly believe" isn't much of a validation.Pity it's in Germany ,it's not as though you can closely inspect it or try it out.
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  • jimmyguitarjimmyguitar Frets: 2442
    Price directly is £2500 so about right for a regular 71. Tempted but need to check saddle height etc
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  • BrizeBrize Frets: 5511
    Indian.
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 69426
    It would be interesting to see some photos of the sides.The nearest you get is the figuring that can be seen on the inside in the serial number picture.
    I didn't spot that earlier. The serial number is more than 15,000 higher than my '71 D12-35, which is definitely Indian rosewood.

    Given that the D-35 was originally introduced because getting Brazilian rosewood blanks in pieces wide enough for 2-piece backs was getting difficult and Martin wanted to find a way of using up their stock of not-quite-wide-enough pieces, and even those had gone well before the time my 12-string was made, I think the chances of this guitar being Brazilian rosewood are about the same as of me being Ayrton Senna.

    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski

    "Just because I don't care, doesn't mean I don't understand." - Homer Simpson

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  • jimmyguitarjimmyguitar Frets: 2442
    Thanks one and all, think i’ll hold off for now.
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