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Mystery guitar! Any ideas?

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Johnny333Johnny333 Frets: 159
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Just saw this come up for sale and intrigued as to what it could be. Any ideas?

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  • Paul_CPaul_C Frets: 7086

    It's knackered.
    "I'll probably be in the bins at Newport Pagnell services."  fretmeister
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 69426
    Not sure of the maker, but it's old - 1930s or earlier I think. I've seen one like it fairly recently, although I can't remember much about it I think it was either German or Italian. @AntiqueGuitars should know more.

    This one is obviously damaged, but assuming it's not much worse than what you can see in the pic it should be repairable by a good luthier.

    How much is it?

    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski

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  • proggyproggy Frets: 5721
    It could be an old Selmer.
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  • AliGorieAliGorie Frets: 308
    yeah - mid 1900's European  looking, if those m/heads are orig it was supposed to have nylon strings due to the l/diameter rollers. Also U may find the f/board markers are bone inlays.
    Interesting project if U fancy.
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  • Johnny333Johnny333 Frets: 159
    edited October 2017
    Thanks guys, really appreciate all the knowledge and opinions. It's up for auction so just trying to figure out what would be a reasonable price, any thoughts? I have a headstock picture that might help with identifying it further, but the Selmer idea seems possible due to the 'S'?!

    https://ibb.co/iRwcLm
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  • MartinBMartinB Frets: 173
    edited October 2017
    I think it's a Scarth, an English guitar from the 30s or thereabouts.  John Renbourn had one in his younger days and there are a couple of pictures of him with it.  
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  • timhuliotimhulio Frets: 1239
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    Looks like you're right:
    http://twogoodears.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/music-and-its-tools-john-renbourns.html
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  • Johnny333Johnny333 Frets: 159
    Cheers guys, great detective work! Any idea on the rough value of this one?
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  • AliGorieAliGorie Frets: 308
    edited October 2017

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-sX7PrLpc40w/U_THtXdtu3I/AAAAAAAAOX4/G5BIU5ge29k/s1600/5270.jpg

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Ij0RSXouIKg/U_TMiQWapWI/AAAAAAAAOaw/Xr2eV8V2E5s/s1600/john_renbourn_john.jpeg

    If it were me I’d just go for it and make a little project outa it - as long as it was ‘reasonably’ priced.
    Wow, as a point of interest after all these years I find what that guitar JR was touting on his album covers - used to think it was an obscure early American make - kinda curvy Gibson / Larson vibe.
    A VERY interesting detail for JR was what looked like a split half of an ol’ style clothes peg under the f/board - didn’t bother with ’neck resets’ back then.
    I have often thought the old utilitarian European guitars had a great filtering effect on  who would potentially continue playing - cause the / we REALLY wanted to and overcame the obstacles of shitty guitars and strings  that corroded so badly they could slice u’r finger with an over enthusiastic string slide.



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